[Ciaran]

Yup, something I'm well aware of, however, not adhering to traditional marriage doesn't mean they don't value it. There's no shortage of hypocrisy there, but the black population voted 70% for Prop 8. For a population that doesn't value marriage, they certainly value the traditional version of it.

No, they just don't like gay people.

 

[$tinkle]

watching gay usa on free speech tv the other night & the guy who sub'd for andy humm was a black guy. funny watching him cover the latest prop 8 news & act incredulous @ teh mormon church w/o so much as a whiff of hypocrisy for his peeps.

i haven't seen that much pearl clutching since the last show of Grand Ole Opry

 

[narlus]

i'm sure a lot of this falls on the shoulders of travis henry

Back in Denver, his fiancée awaits. They set a wedding date but agreed to postpone it until the storm dissipates.

One other subject they agree on: Neither wants children.

 

[Mo(n)arch]

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

I dated a virgin after my divorce. She was a good girl, went to a Christan college, saving herself, blah, blah, blah.

After a few months, she decided why not and we started having sex on a regular basis.

yeah right!

 

[$tinkle]

never again doubt his womb-shifting prowess

 

[jimmydean]

yeah right!

She went to Whitworth, a stones throw from Gonzaga.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

never again doubt his womb-shifting prowess

reminds me of the time i was a freshman in college... a newly arrived foreign student.
went out with this cute girl from my english class, who had a distintive ring in one hand, although it was obviously not a wedding ring.

me, ignorant of southern and religious american customs, didnt give it much thought.... until i made a comment about it, during our first date.
she told me it was a "pledge" ring, meaning she we would "save" herself for marriage and etc.. and there i was cursing myself for picking a prude for a date, from all the girls of loose morals in a college campus.

and then, we went to her dorm "to watch a movie"... and she it took up the pooper!!!!!!!! awesome date.

and then.. this other girl back in Lima, who i chased for a while since high school... she swore she was a virgin (we were 19)... but after so much insistance of my part, she wanted her first time to be in a $400/night hotel.

holy ****!, i got my brains screwed over the phone for a few months, while i was... dying in anticipation of the day i came back home, to do the deed and to spend $600 in one night in date/hotel....

funnily enough, when i got back home, during a college break... she had gotten herself a new boyfriend...... next thing i knew, she was a single mom within a year...

i´ve had funny experiences with "virgins" over the age of 19...

 

[jimmydean]

There was a chick I dated in high school that was saving herself. She dated a jock who knocked her up after me. At the 20 year reunion I asked where she was and learned she had 5 kids from 4 dads and didn't feel like going.