[S.K.C.]

In case you were wondering:
http://www.nissanusa.com/09gt-r/

...wonder what the final production version will look like...

 

[Dirtjumper999]

 

[TCP21]

wahoo, finally its coming

 

[lovebunny]

ohhh man. i wonder what the price is gonna be like

 

[erastusboy]

I read in scc its going to be powered by a turbo'ed 4 cyl. honda engine. The ones out of preludes and i dunno what cars the b series engines were in but those. Any way its 2.2 lt. or 1.6/8 lt. engine

 

[Bicyclist]

Meh. I'd buy something else for the money. I hate the light pvssy steering in Japanese cars, they feel so fragile compared to German cars with nice weighted steering and precise controls.

 

[lovebunny]

I read in scc its going to be powered by a turbo'ed 4 cyl. honda engine. The ones out of preludes and i dunno what cars the b series engines were in but those. Any way its 2.2 lt. or 1.6/8 lt. engine

are you kidding? its a GTR

 

[COmtbiker12]

I read in scc its going to be powered by a turbo'ed 4 cyl. honda engine. The ones out of preludes and i dunno what cars the b series engines were in but those. Any way its 2.2 lt. or 1.6/8 lt. engine

Bseries engines were originally in Integras are are now in the CivicSi (or at least were...not sure if the new ones have it or not). The Hseries engines are what was in the Preludes. I can't imagine that they'd use one of those engines in it in the first place though...

 

[Discostu]

There is not going to be a Honda 4 cylinder in a Nissan Skyline. Try 3.5-4 liter v6

 

[COmtbiker12]

There is not going to be a Honda 4 cylinder in a Nissan Skyline. Try 3.5-4 liter v6

Agreed. Probably something at least as powerful as the 350z and the prior 300zx I bet. Of course I have no idea how these are spec'd over in Japan though... But if it's anything like the twin turbo'd 300zx I'm sure we'll be expecting 300hp+.

 

[PonySoldier]

Maybe they'lll jam the 5.6 liter V8 from the Titan and Armada in it...

 

[HaveFaith]

Meh. I'd buy something else for the money. I hate the light pvssy steering in Japanese cars, they feel so fragile compared to German cars with nice weighted steering and precise controls.

I wouldn't judge all Japanese cars without driving them. If you ever come to Santa Barbara, you can drive my EVO, and you will have a new definition for steering response and roadfeel from then on....

 

[dfinn]

Meh. I'd buy something else for the money. I hate the light pvssy steering in Japanese cars, they feel so fragile compared to German cars with nice weighted steering and precise controls.

It's probably not just the steering, most japanese sports cars are much lighter than german pigs. It didn't used to be this way but they are so cramed with luxury crap now that they weigh a ton. Thus needing a bigger and heavier engine.

There's no way the GT-R is getting a honda engine. 6cyl turbo is my guess.

 

[Bicyclist]

It's probably not just the steering, most japanese sports cars are much lighter than german pigs. It didn't used to be this way but they are so cramed with luxury crap now that they weigh a ton. Thus needing a bigger and heavier engine.

There's no way the GT-R is getting a honda engine. 6cyl turbo is my guess.

I'm speaking more of older German cars, so I guess it's not a fair comparison.

 

[dfinn]

I'm speaking more of older German cars, so I guess it's not a fair comparison.

I'll agree with you there. VW stopped making cars in 1992 and my favorite BMW is the e30. I'm not a huge fan of older audis but I've been pretty happy with my CQ, although that car falls into the pig category.

 

[LetThemEatWar]

I'm sure the US version will be a big liter V8..maybe supercharged but I doubt it.

 

[sanjuro]

fuk euromobile. i challenge anyone in my honda...

 

[jimmydean]

Meh. I'd buy something else for the money. I hate the light pvssy steering in Japanese cars, they feel so fragile compared to German cars with nice weighted steering and precise controls.

I like the way the MK4 Supra drives. Not to mention the fact it spanks most anything in stock form.

 

[-dustin]

damn

5

 

[BigMike]

Sexy!

Now........ is thule gonna make a mount for it?

 

[Bicyclist]

I'll agree with you there. VW stopped making cars in 1992 and my favorite BMW is the e30. I'm not a huge fan of older audis but I've been pretty happy with my CQ, although that car falls into the pig category.

Yeah. New German cars definately have lost their focus, except for the new GTI. It seems for current stuff Japanese cars and Italian cars are it, yet I don't really like either.

I guess that's why I own a '70 914.

 

[erastusboy]

Bseries engines were originally in Integras are are now in the CivicSi (or at least were...not sure if the new ones have it or not). The Hseries engines are what was in the Preludes. I can't imagine that they'd use one of those engines in it in the first place though...

The last two gen's of Si's have k series.

I suppose I'm skeptical as well, but I def. read that in the last issue of SCC I will find the exact article when i get back to school (later today) but It for sure said that Nissan was buying up honda's stock of left over h and b series engines. Maybe it was the april issue.

If it was me turbo'ed inline 6 (if nissan even has an i-6)

 

[atrokz]

Go drive a new 3 series and tell me BMW has lost it's feel.......

 

[blue]

fuk euromobile. i challenge anyone in my honda...

You get an F.

 

[Bicyclist]

Go drive a new 3 series and tell me BMW has lost it's feel.......

Meh. BMW seems more concerned with luxury and safety now than a driving experience. I much prefer the old M3 to the new one, and most magazine tests will agree with me.

By the way I was in the old M3 as a passenger as we were test driving one and we hit 140 in a 65 and it felt like nothing. I love that car.

 

[noname]

Meh. BMW seems more concerned with luxury and safety now than a driving experience. I much prefer the old M3 to the new one, and most magazine tests will agree with me.

By the way I was in the old M3 as a passenger as we were test driving one and we hit 140 in a 65 and it felt like nothing. I love that car.

What's the point in going fast if you don't feel it? It's like sex with a cheap condom.
I'll just stick to my motorcycle when I want to go fast.

 

[Bicyclist]

What's the point in going fast if you don't feel it? It's like sex with a cheap condom.
I'll just stick to my motorcycle when I want to go fast.

The point was it carried its speed well.

 

[noname]

The point was it carried its speed well.

Oddly enough, that's my biggest problem with modern automobiles. you have to go so bloody fast to really push them, by the time you really get that rush you're so far on the other side of the law it's garranteed jail time or serious injury if you screw up. The most fun I ever had in a car was pushing an old Triumph TR-6 through the back country peggin the motor and sliding the car all over the place. Granted my Miata would do the same roads much faster with no fuss, but it wouldn't have been quite as much fun.
I guess all I'm sayin is that technology is really starting to cause modern machines to lose that visceral feel that is what atracts people to them in the first place.

 

[bballe336]

The new GT-R is ugly as sin. If that's the car the US will be getting then I am not at all excited. The 05 GT-R has to be my favorite.

 

[EaternFreerider]

I wanted a Skyline but couldnt get one. I got the 2006 CivicSi instead, DOHC V-tech is an awesome engine and gets to 130 mighty fast. iIt also gets 31 mpg.


Anywyas cant wait untill they start selling those skylines.

 

[Bicyclist]

Oddly enough, that's my biggest problem with modern automobiles. you have to go so bloody fast to really push them, by the time you really get that rush you're so far on the other side of the law it's garranteed jail time or serious injury if you screw up. The most fun I ever had in a car was pushing an old Triumph TR-6 through the back country peggin the motor and sliding the car all over the place. Granted my Miata would do the same roads much faster with no fuss, but it wouldn't have been quite as much fun.
I guess all I'm sayin is that technology is really starting to cause modern machines to lose that visceral feel that is what atracts people to them in the first place.

Yeah, I would definately never own one. I was just stunned at how composed it was. In the corners it was fast...

But that said, I would never buy a new car. I'll stick with my old Porsche 914, thank you very much.

It's such a fun little car, even though 0-60 is about 12 sec. Slow in a straight line but quick enough in the corners to put a smile on my face! :love:

 

[blue]

I wanted a Skyline but couldnt get one. I got the 2006 CivicSi instead, DOHC V-tech is an awesome engine and gets to 130 mighty fast. iIt also gets 31 mpg.

You get an F.

 

[BMXman]

I love driving my DA Integra it drives great and I'm building it myself. The new Skyline will be sweet though...D

 

[Toshi]

Oddly enough, that's my biggest problem with modern automobiles. you have to go so bloody fast to really push them, by the time you really get that rush you're so far on the other side of the law it's garranteed jail time or serious injury if you screw up. The most fun I ever had in a car was pushing an old Triumph TR-6 through the back country peggin the motor and sliding the car all over the place. Granted my Miata would do the same roads much faster with no fuss, but it wouldn't have been quite as much fun.
I guess all I'm sayin is that technology is really starting to cause modern machines to lose that visceral feel that is what atracts people to them in the first place.

my wrx might not be the fastest thing on the road* when compared to big cruisers i see around here such as the m5 and s55 but what i really like about it is its feel: sure, it rattles and shakes about on its stiff springs, but poly bushings, 7k/5k sprung coilovers, and an external wastegate on the turbo make the driving experience visceral indeed.

* (although it is plenty quick with 283 whp, albeit somewhat peaky ones, pushing ~3000 lbs. 3000 comes from 3085 stock adjusted for lighter hood/coilovers/battery/rotors/flywheel, no spare)

what would really be fun would be an elise/exige, caterham 7, spec miata, or some kind of open wheel formula ___ racer... something close to 2000 lbs.

finally, the concept that nissan would use a honda inline 4 in a skyline is ludicrous. the skyline has always had inline 6s, and although it's likely they'll use a v6 or v8 in this one. of course, they'll probably make it a 3700 lb luxocruiser boat...

 

[blue]

Whats the weight on the 350Z? Piggy? I figured it would be...

The 300ZX TT wasn't on the light side, either, if I recall.

 

[Tenchiro]

If I were to drop that kind of coin I would go with a Lotus Elise.

mmmm Sexy!

 

[Toshi]

Whats the weight on the 350Z? Piggy? I figured it would be...

The 300ZX TT wasn't on the light side, either, if I recall.

google sez between 3197 and 3247 lbs for the 350Z. not bad, considering the Z32 300ZX TT was 3533 according to sport compact car. edmunds says the 1996 300ZX non-turbo was 3287 lbs.

as a former na Z32 driver i can say that ~3300 lbs + 222 hp was fun but not breathtaking, and the car wasn't super tossable although certainly not a pig.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

if i were to drop 70k on a sportscar.... it would be because i´d already have at least one more daily driving car.

and then, i´d tarmac spec a group-n evo or impreza... or i´d buy one of those british "make it yourself" kit cars like the ultima or caterham or something like that.

 

[Toshi]

if i were to drop 70k on a sportscar.... it would be because i´d already have at least one more daily driving car.

and then, i´d tarmac spec a group-n evo or impreza... or i´d buy one of those british "make it yourself" kit cars like the ultima or caterham or something like that.

why would you start with a group N car? isn't group N basically stock + lots and lots of safety equipment?

 

[justsomeguy]

Yeah. New German cars definately have lost their focus, except for the new GTI.

..Why?