[SCARY]

I've searched the forums,and can't seem to find if this thing is actually a good fork.I've got an 07 wc and its fine,no real gripes,but I wish I could tune it better.
There seems to be a boat load of issues people are having with the new fork,though i can get it at a good price,I can find other things to do with the money--unless its amazing and transcendental.Talk me into one...or out

 

[RUFUS]

I have yet to have any problems with the WC. Keep in mind that most issues were with the team and the issues have been ironed out. All new forks will be sent with the new parts that had issues or you can go to and authorized RS dealer and they will fix it for free.

The 2010 WC is so much better than the 07-08 WC in almost every way. Better adjustments, stiffer, bigger yet lighter, etc.

The stiffness is the one thing that stands out to me the most. I felt twitchy in a few spots on a few tracks with the 08 WC. I have hit those trails again multiple times and I just track through those sections with such ease and confidence now.

I won't go into full details as you can find them all over the place but I would highly recommend getting it especially if you can get a deal.

 

[soul-skier]

After four years of DH racing with the Foes Curnutt XTD fork I was pleasantly surprised how stable the 2010 WC Boxxer really was. How did they pack so much stability, tracking, bump-eating plushness into such a light package??? I thought for sure I would have to trade some of that point-and-shoot freightrain stability I so loved about my Foes. But I am very happy to say that wasn't the case at all. Thanks to the light weight and awsome handling & tuning options the 2010 WC Boxxer has made it easier for me to be an overall faster DH racer.

 

[CBJ]

All I can say is I really want one.

 

[SCARY]

Yeah, I came off the Curnutt too.After 4 years off I dont know whats "good" now...I really loved that fork.My only true requirement is no brake dive, I hate that.Which is why i wont get a fox or Zoke.I like it really soft the 1st 1/3 of travel,and then ramp up really fast.If the tuning options are available,great.Thanks for the reviews.Nobody mention any of this to my wife,okay?

 

[Viv92]

The 2010 WC is so much better than the 07-08 WC in almost every way. Better adjustments, stiffer, bigger yet lighter, etc.

You reckon? In theory I guess it should have but I am pretty disappointed with the adjustment range offered, to the point where I'd rather my older model Boxxer...

 

[RUFUS]

You reckon? In theory I guess it should have but I am pretty disappointed with the adjustment range offered, to the point where I'd rather my older model Boxxer...

My 2010 feels like every adjustment is doing something whereas one of my 08's felt as though it was full on and full off. It depends on each person.

 

[Lelandjt]

I like it really soft the 1st 1/3 of travel,and then ramp up really fast.

That perfectly describes the Marzocchi 888 ATA. I wish it had a more linear feel.

 

[zipper]

The 2010 chassie is a lot stiffer, tracks much better than previous models and has far less flex. That said they have many issues that were realised pre production, but bescuase of a breakdown in communications failed to get fixed. The main issues have been the rebound units either not working or working improperly, The seals have been burning out and or leaking, many sets came out dry, with little or no lube and lastly the compression damping in some mod's have not been upto scratch. Ive had a pair or teams since they were released and have experienced all of these issues, which has been a pain in the arse to say the least! They do have fixes for the problems and i have felt a mates pair with the new parts in them and they feel great! Plush, no stichtion and the adjustments are in a workable range so you can use them all to fine tune the fork.

Im still not sold as far as the internal tolerance's in my own pair but they have the potential to be a worlds above the old ones.

 

[RUFUS]

The 2010 chassie is a lot stiffer, tracks much better than previous models and has far less flex. That said they have many issues that were realised pre production, but bescuase of a breakdown in communications failed to get fixed. The main issues have been the rebound units either not working or working improperly, The seals have been burning out and or leaking, many sets came out dry, with little or no lube and lastly the compression damping in some mod's have not been upto scratch. Ive had a pair or teams since they were released and have experienced all of these issues, which has been a pain in the arse to say the least! They do have fixes for the problems and i have felt a mates pair with the new parts in them and they feel great! Plush, no stichtion and the adjustments are in a workable range so you can use them all to fine tune the fork.

Im still not sold as far as the internal tolerance's in my own pair but they have the potential to be a worlds above the old ones.

With that being said, PLEASE do not turn this into the 2010 Boxxer thread.

Keep in mind that the above mentioned minus the rebound cartridge issue from the first batch were primarily from the team.

 

[Kntr]

While in Whislter last week, I talked to 4 guys about their 2010 Boxxers and ALL had problems, but loved them when they worked. I saw a ton leaking and a ton with burnt seals while standing in line.

 

[SCARY]

Now I'm back to thoroughly undecided.I was right there.When is the new dorado out?

 

[soul-skier]

Now I'm back to thoroughly undecided.I was right there.When is the new dorado out?

which new dorado? the carbon model is out now. not sure about the other.

 

[RUFUS]

While in Whislter last week, I talked to 4 guys about their 2010 Boxxers and ALL had problems, but loved them when they worked. I saw a ton leaking and a ton with burnt seals while standing in line.

Were those wc's or teams? Also were they the first run forks or not? The new batches that been coming out has had little to no problems from what I have heard.

Buy what you want man.

 

[SCARY]

I want to buy forks that aren't a constant PIA.Of course my previous favorite forks were the Foes xtd and the Dorado....and everybody seemed to hate those.Other than stiffness do theHi/lo rebound /comp adjustments do what they are supposed to?My current Boxxer dosen't rebound fast enough.Does the lower air pressure feel different on these?

 

[norbar]

Does the wc still have that feeling typical for air? Ie. for us who like our susp offer more support vs dive/linearity or is the team the only way to go then?

 

[soul-skier]

To me the WC feels like a coil spring compared to a LT single crown zocchi I used to run. Zero stiction. I felt some unwanted dive when I went from Diablo to Plattekill (flat vs. steep) with the same set-up. A couple clicks of high speed, ending stroke, and bottom out cleared things up.

 

[norbar]

Its not the ending stroke I think about as this is never a problem. I'm more concerned how it behaves in earlier stages of travel. I hate when the susp (front or rear) dives for a large part of it's travel. I was always more of a fan of hard damping than uber plushness.
btw. I know hard damping souds like a porn flick name. Feel free to use it

 

[RUFUS]

I have never felt and dive at the beginning of the suspension from either my 08 or my 10 WC. Correct weights for oil and oil height, correct suspension set up for your weight and conditions and you should have no problems. You can also switch to a heavier weight to help.

 

[norbar]

I have never felt and dive at the beginning of the suspension from either my 08 or my 10 WC. Correct weights for oil and oil height, correct suspension set up for your weight and conditions and you should have no problems. You can also switch to a heavier weight to help.

I may not be describing it correctly but from what I tried the wc feels different than a team (at lest the motion control models) and the "feel" in the WC was that I didn't like. Though it might have not been setup right.

 

[RUFUS]

I may not be describing it correctly but from what I tried the wc feels different than a team (at lest the motion control models) and the "feel" in the WC was that I didn't like. Though it might have not been setup right.

That would explain a lot. Some people just don't like the Boxxer.

 

[Damo]

The issues the Boxxer lineup had this year, first run or not, have turned me away from Rockshox. That kind of quality control is inexcusable in a company like that.

A friend recently had a replacement part (damping) sent to him, where the shaft was not equal in diameter along the length. It was minute, not even visible, but the stack would not glide up the shaft smoothly, sticking at one point where the bulge was. This was a replacement part!

Another niggle for me, albeit a small one, is I don't get a company that will change the paint scheme each year just to boost sales. My forks are a couple years old now, but could be this year's. But as I said, that is a small niggle.

 

[Lelandjt]

Another niggle for me, is I don't get a company that will change the paint scheme each year just to boost sales.

In the dirtbike world this is called BNG, or Bold New Graphics. Everybody does it as a way to differentiate model years. I can't think of a major bike company besides Santacruz that doesn't change colors and graphics each year.

 

[Kanye West]

RS doesn't have a serial number stamped or inked anywhere on the fork do they? I know Zoke does this, and I'm pretty sure Fox does too. Might just be useful for determining how old a fork is for service purposes.

I don't really expect RS to have that kind of forward thinking though. It's probably just the BNG ****...

 

[Damo]

In the dirtbike world this is called BNG, or Bold New Graphics. Everybody does it as a way to differentiate model years. I can't think of a major bike company besides Santacruz that doesn't change colors and graphics each year.

My 2yo white Fox 40s could easily be this year's.

 

[Lelandjt]

We'd call you out on the upper crown.

Edit: But some kid on Pinkbike would never notice. Sell'em as '09s!

 

[zipper]

RS doesn't have a serial number stamped or inked anywhere on the fork do they? I know Zoke does this, and I'm pretty sure Fox does too. Might just be useful for determining how old a fork is for service purposes.

I don't really expect RS to have that kind of forward thinking though. It's probably just the BNG ****...

Unless you bought your RS's off the net from some dodgy backyarder, the forks should all have serial numbers on the crowns.

 

[Trekrules]

i have a serial number on the fork crowns on my 010 WC

 

[Sandwich]

I have an 08 WC and am thrilled with the performance. I haven't tried tuning it much since it works so damn well under almost all conditions. The only thing I'd like better is if it didn't sag so much in it's travel, but I can't complain on the trail.

For me, I wouldn't spring for the new boxxer until the next model year. YMMV, but I'm not sold with the QC issues and the "forced obsolescence" of the previous model.

 

[davet]

The issues the Boxxer lineup had this year, first run or not, have turned me away from Rockshox. That kind of quality control is inexcusable in a company like that.

We all said that about the first year Totem just 2 short years ago too

Memories seem pretty short in this sport. Rockshox may not have the best 1st year product history, but their marketing department sure is earning their keep.

 

[CBJ]

Another niggle for me, albeit a small one, is I don't get a company that will change the paint scheme each year just to boost sales. My forks are a couple years old now, but could be this year's. But as I said, that is a small niggle.

Now you are just being a grumpy old man. The previous model Boxxer kept the same colors and stickers through the model years.

RS first year problems is nothing new and people should really do their research first.

 

[Lelandjt]

RS first year problems is nothing new and people should really do their research first.

Sounds like they're having the same problems that Marzocchi had in '08, first year product being manufactured in Asia and tolerances are off. Hopefully their manufacturer is taking the financial hit and like Zoke all will be sorted out after a year of production. My replacement 888 lowers came from an '09 run and solved the loose bushing problem.