No, I think everybody got it. I think it was just a single non english speaker who didn't. You were clear about it.
2010 glory
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the point is that YOU and ME (and almost everyone in this forum) are not succesful modern WC racers.
So we dont ride as fast, we do not need that slack.
And if i remenber well the yeti was 67 at the begining, i don't know now.
So fuKIN average riders cannot be complaining "the new glory is too steep.. blabla..." cuz they can barely reach the limits of one of this new generation dh bikes
That's a bull**** theory that's been floating around the internet forever. First it depends from your riding style and where you ride. A lot of the slower riders still have a very similar style to the top guys and a lot of us live close to some gnarly tracks. Also the some of the top guys are runinng HA's closer to 61-62 so suggesting that we can't want 64 as it is wc stuff makes no sense. Also have you ridden a steep bike around a fast/steep track? Anytime I went steeper I had more confidence and in DH confidence often equals results. Slacker ha has the same result on a begginer rider than a pro rider - gives more confidence and stability and therfore allows (at least some of them) to ride faster.
Did I miss something? Is or isn't the 06-09 the same geometry as the 2010? Meaning it should be the same hugely success full WC racer/Privateer, nicest stock spec'd downhill bike on the market? I am going to have no problem ordering mine next week.
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this, right here....the truth
I rally the hell out of my glory, and it's probably one of the most popular rigs here in whistler due to it's price, spec, reliability and the great warrenty giant provides if and when you need it.....and I love super steep gnarly stuff, and super wide open high speed stuff....I came from many years on a bb7 too which was long, low, and slack.....no problems adjusting to the glory at all
One of the main reasons I am buying one(minus that our shop is a dealer) is that I rode a friends in Whistler and could not have been more impressed. It is the only bike I have imediately felt comfortable on. Now the fact that the Geo is still the same and the frame is 3.3lbs lighter and comes with an RC4! Its can't be beat.
Word.
Yeah..... So I'm just gonna go ahead, leave you guys to it, and close the door on my way out. Y'all play nice now...
Yes it is the same succesfull geometry so i still not get how this people are complaining about the bike being too steep.
I heard Amiel Cavalier and Jared Rando were complaining because their bikes are not 62° head angle.
I have ridden a VP-free in a veeery fast track and yes it gets sketchy at sometimes, but thats 67, The 64 in the glory is perfect. 61-62 as you said its a freaking OCC bike.
You norbar should be working at giant RD department because you seem to know more about geometry than this people at giant.
the bike is the bang for the buck, nice looking, lite, warrantied.
you bike snobs keep buying overpriced cracking turners at the boutique.(you still won't be faster than any kid on his stinky)
gimme a break
im off
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Yes, 64 would be perfect, but the glory is 1.5 deg steeper than that.
Yeah, the 06-09 Glory was great. Solid privateer race bike because it was well specced (conservatively), and tough. When they spend 2 years redesigning it (and presumably expect it to be on the shelves for another 3), it is just disappoionting that they didn't take into account a major factor - have geometry expectations changed.
Patan, your argument about geo doesn't hold water - EVERY bike (almost) in all brands has got slacker the last few years. Reign X sits at 67, Reign at 68 etc etc. By your arguments we should still be trying to AM ride on 70 or 71 deg HAs.
Slacker = better. Most people in the bike buying public are coming to realise this.
It's not the end of the world that the Glory is 65.5HA (though it might seem so right here), it's just disappointing, you're just hearing some disappointed riders venting a little. But to say that they made the right decision is not up for debate.
As someone who was considering a Glory for next season as a privateer racer it's "no sale".
2c.
I can assure you the HA wasn't chosen only for the "will it be the fastest hardcore dh frame ever". They still want to target it to an average weekend warrior and that's why I think they choose to stay with the HA.
Also sorry for being a bit cranky.
And btw. don't tell me about cracking frames when the new glory weights around the weight of the socom. I may be a negative thinker but we already have one mass produced lightweight dh frame
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I have just got 2010 RS Totem Solo Air Tappered custom Giant White/Blue, the fork which is on 2010 Faith 0.
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/umg.php?m=100
I am going to assmeble the fork on 2010 Glory...
As Totem's axle-to-race height is slightly smaller/lower than F40's HA on my bike will probably be steeper than advertised 65,5
Am I doomed?
However, I have been riding Glory (FR) with Totem for 2 years, and I didn't feel it nervous at high speed, even with 67 deegres...
Lepiej pogoń Keitha z ramą I have just got 2010 RS Totem Solo Air Tappered custom Giant White/Blue, the fork which is on 2010 Faith 0.
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/umg.php?m=100
I am going to assmeble the fork on 2010 Glory...
As Totem's axle-to-race height is slightly smaller/lower than F40's HA on my bike will probably be steeper than advertised 65,5
Am I doomed? However, I have been riding Glory (FR) with Totem for 2 years, and I didn't feel it nervous at high speed, even with 67 deegres...
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It is an 8.75 x 2.75 shock. With the travel reduced to 8" the shock was also shrunk a bit.
Thanks, looks like I can stick with the TI spring from my Glory FR.
I guess there was a roco in 8,5 X 2,75 but i'm not quite sure.
I wouldn mess with geometry in light dh frames, maybe in the overdimensioned and heavy ones like the previous glory or faith yes , but this is way lighter.
The life of the frame may be compromissed in long term....
There may be engineers arround here but without the renders they cannot calculate anything
It will come with a Shock (obviously), headset, seat collar, and axle.
I just measured a stock new Glory 0 (med size). The head angle with michelin comp 32 front tire, and a comp 24 2.5 rear tire is 64 degrees (the fork being set up with 8.3" from seal to bottom of lower clamp).
Hopefully this clears the air a little bit on that issue. Typos do in fact happen sometimes. I will post a full writeup once i get mine built (within 7days) and post pictures of all measurements...
Hopefully this clears the air a little bit on that issue. Typos do in fact happen sometimes. I will post a full writeup once i get mine built (within 7days) and post pictures of all measurements...
How is that a typo then? If you put a way bigger tire on the front of course it will be slacker.
Thanks!
I tire like that will not change the bike 1.5 degrees. Or maybe it will??? But the tire is not 1.5" taller than the rear to make that 1.5 degree change. 1" was around equal to 1 degree of change right?
Nate,
How did you get you're hands on one so early? My shop keeps telling me there still on a cargo ship crossing the Pacific.
I would ask the same question
I know someone, who knows someone....I would ask the same question
Actually I work for Giant. I happen to be able to get my hands on one early thanks to the guys here. I will keep you guys posted and be happy to answer questions that you guys have...I'll try and stay out of the way of banter though, or do my best.
I work for Giant, too
But my frame has just left GTM, finally... Should be here in 6 weeks 
I will take a Downtube measurement for you this evening. Once the bike is built I will take fiull measurements and confirm any questions that you guys may have. What I can tell you is this bike is light! It's going to be a light build when it's done (and I'm not even going weight weenie on it) and it's going to be sick! I'll be sure to do a report and writeup. With a full writeup coming after the Mammoth race at the beginning of September.
I'm very curious about BB height. Also, can you take a measurement on how wide the frame is just behind the headtube? An earlier post made mention of poor steering throw due to excessive bulk there...
That was me who mentioned the wide headtube junction. Personally I couldn't ride that bike with a boxxer on the trails I enjoy without it bothering me. My local riding spots are the shore and whistler though, so if you live somewhere with less technical riding and more straight lines you could be ok. Id imagine it would turn acceptably with a wider fork like a fox or marzocchi or obviously a single crown.
If the static headangle is the same as a bike with an inch more travel, the bike with less travel will have a comparatively steeper head angle once it is at its sag point. Not that it makes a whole lot of difference but it seems to be a popular discussion topic...
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has it already been mentioned when they will be available to order?
They have been available to order for close to two weeks.
I placed an order for one, mainly because I'm slow and can get away with the abnormally steep head angle. Super excited, framesets should be in in several weeks. Completes are expected in late October.
Don't lie to us, now I feel even slower.