[Xetal]

Called and talked to marzocchi today. Od of ti coils are larger than steel coils.

Hearing something is one thing. Hard facts like a pic and a ruler is another. Ti coils are usually getting bigger as their rating go up.

I will get mine soon and will post pictures of them side by side. I will also be able to tell if a Ti coil with it's adaptor fits in my Non Ti fork.

Canada Post employees will be forced back to work and i will be able to obtain my precious that has been locked down like a war head by them !

 

[no skid marks]

I swapped my EVO Ti lowers with some off an EVO(steel), and put my Avy cart in.
Whilst appart I swapped springs around.
Both fit in both, but the thinner spring slopped around in the fatter stanchion. Not sure what year the EVO(steels) are, they're white lowers. They have 08 on the lowers, but not sure if this is aplicable to year with the EVOs, as they're all the same lowers. I'll post pics so someone can figure it out.
The Ti spring didn't have much space, but did fit in the black stanchions.
The steel floated about in the silver stanchions, and I'd say would rattle.
I'm guessing Ti in black might create more metal scrapings in the oil.

 

[Xetal]

I swapped my EVO Ti lowers with some off an EVO(steel), and put my Avy cart in.
Whilst appart I swapped springs around.
Both fit in both, but the thinner spring slopped around in the fatter stanchion. Not sure what year the EVO(steels) are, they're white lowers. They have 08 on the lowers, but not sure if this is aplicable to year with the EVOs, as they're all the same lowers. I'll post pics so someone can figure it out.
The Ti spring didn't have much space, but did fit in the black stanchions.
The steel floated about in the silver stanchions, and I'd say would rattle.
I'm guessing Ti in black might create more metal scrapings in the oil.

Thanks for the input man. I will gladly dismantle tgat sucker when i get my new coil and confirm everything.

 

[OB1]

Some good bits of info in this long ass thread. I'm loving my EVO. They did it right with the new damper.

 

[no skid marks]

No sure if the springs diameter expands under compression. So Ti in black might rub quite a lot.

 

[Xetal]

Dosent expand no. Will move a bit left and right but any spring that long will do the same under compression.

 

[pieno]

I swapped in a Fox 40 spring which seems to fit in the Evos. Does anyone know the stiffness of the firm Fox 40 spring vs a firm 888 spring. Just wondering if they are similar because the medium 888 spring feels too soft and firm 40 spring feels too stiff. I'm hoping the firm 888 spring is in between.

 

[no skid marks]

I swapped in a Fox 40 spring which seems to fit in the Evos. Does anyone know the stiffness of the firm Fox 40 spring vs a firm 888 spring. Just wondering if they are similar because the medium 888 spring feels too soft and firm 40 spring feels too stiff. I'm hoping the firm 888 spring is in between.

Did you shrink wrap it or something? Was the diameter the same as the 888 spring? Handy tip, thanks.

 

[pieno]

Had to cut the shrink wrap off the 40 spring so that it would fit it. The firm 40 spring was pretty stiff, felt good on some of the rougher trails here in Whistler, but not so good on the small bumps.

 

[Kanye West]

I swapped in a Fox 40 spring which seems to fit in the Evos. Does anyone know the stiffness of the firm Fox 40 spring vs a firm 888 spring. Just wondering if they are similar because the medium 888 spring feels too soft and firm 40 spring feels too stiff. I'm hoping the firm 888 spring is in between.

If you search around on here you can find a list of the nominal springrates for the 40 but they're expressed in different units. Quick conversion on Google will show you that the stock 40 spring is between the firm and x-firm 888 spring in rate.

 

[pieno]

If you search around on here you can find a list of the nominal springrates for the 40 but they're expressed in different units. Quick conversion on Google will show you that the stock 40 spring is between the firm and x-firm 888 spring in rate.

Thanks mate

 

[Xetal]

I was dismantling my fork and found an unexpected friend ! I also had oil on top of the Volume adjust assy ... I believe that o-ring might go in between the Volume adjust seal and the shaft. I cant seem to be able to remove the volume adjuster assy . help !

 

[Xetal]

Funny enough i found a use for the o-ring. I used it to hold the Volume assy all the way up putting back the stanchion. Was an easy grab

 

[Xetal]

Images answer questions by themselves !

Steel coil OD is 30mm
Ti Coil OD is 32mm
My new Ti coil fits my 2011 888 Evo. It is tighter then steel obviously but i didnt force it in. I just let it go down and everyone is happy. No rubbbbbage !

Also the Marzocchi site got updated !

888 RC3 EVO 315 Oil SAE 7,5 - Cod: 550013 80 Oil SAE 7,5 - Cod: 550013
888 RC3 EVO TITANIUM 335 Oil SAE 7,5 - Cod: 550013 80 Oil SAE 7,5 - Cod: 550013

Each fork damper leg gets a 15 cc/ml more !

 

[92SE-R]

Exact measurements on my stock Ti spring was 32.65mm OD.

 

[IH8Rice]

888 RC3 Evo tear down by CRC's Dave Garland
Mont-Sainte-Anne 2011 tech video on Vimeo

 

[marshalolson]

does anyone know if any of the 66 topcaps fit the evo ti stanciton? i am specifically looking for an air topcap so i could add a couple psi to tune the stock spring.

would be way easier than dropping $300 on a ti spring anyhow...

 

[Xetal]

888 RC3 Evo tear down by CRC's Dave Garland
Mont-Sainte-Anne 2011 tech video on Vimeo

Super vid mate. Thanks a ton. That will make it clear for every home mechanic in here !

 

[Lelandjt]

does anyone know if any of the 66 topcaps fit the evo ti stanciton? i am specifically looking for an air topcap so i could add a couple psi to tune the stock spring.

would be way easier than dropping $300 on a ti spring anyhow...

Itshould fit. The legs are the same. Marz USA will sell you one of those top caps.

 

[OGRipper]

does anyone know if any of the 66 topcaps fit the evo ti stanciton? i am specifically looking for an air topcap so i could add a couple psi to tune the stock spring.

would be way easier than dropping $300 on a ti spring anyhow...

Rad idea, keep us posted on how this works out.

 

[Xetal]

I did go out and tried my stiffer 6k5 coil. It does respond quicker and pop better. I was absolutely happy with the overall stiffness and the new improved ride. I now sit higher in the travel and dont soak all of it on little junk. I also added 15 ml to the cartridge side as per updated marzocchi site. I didn't get full travel on the fork. I got 7" ! I will lower down the oil to 300ml (regular evo) and see if i get full travel.

 

[marshalolson]

Itshould fit. The legs are the same. Marz USA will sell you one of those top caps.

thanks, it what i figured. i will call them on monday, see what they can come up with.

 

[marshalolson]

first off, marzocchi usa is freeking rad.

they were out of stock on the 888 rcv aircap, that might have worked, so the tech went through and tried every air cap they had in spare/used parts with a stanction till he found one that worked (off a 2008 66) , and sending it off for $10+ship. though i think he only found 1 in spare parts.

way stoked on that, and really will be happy to dial in the air pressure a few psi to get the fork where i want it, and not need to try a bunch of springs.

 

[Trekrules]

CRC/Nukeproof are running a new top crown. These will soon be available on the production 888's

 

[IH8Rice]

had Marz do some more work on my fork at Windham. hand honed/polished bushings, ditched the foam rings for grease, used 250cc of oil to the spring side since im using the stock Ti spring and got a new Ti spring since the stock one broke in the fork....the fork is running smoother than ever. awesome work yet again.

 

[Ithnu]

had Marz do some more work on my fork at Windham. hand honed/polished bushings, ditched the foam rings for grease, used 250cc of oil to the spring side since im using the stock Ti spring and got a new Ti spring since the stock one broke in the fork....the fork is running smoother than ever. awesome work yet again.

You know I just changed the oil on my Works tuned 888 and your post just made me realize there were no foam rings in it. But there is now since they came with the seal kit. It's not as smooth as before but I figured it was the lack of Marzocchi's special sauce additive. I wonder if the foam rings had an impact too.

Also, only 250cc of oil? I thought it was supposed to be 320.

 

[IH8Rice]

You know I just changed the oil on my Works tuned 888 and your post just made me realize there were no foam rings in it. But there is now since they came with the seal kit. It's not as smooth as before but I figured it was the lack of Marzocchi's special sauce additive. I wonder if the foam rings had an impact too.

Also, only 250cc of oil? I thought it was supposed to be 320.

i dont know if i had one after they did the Works tune last year but when i asked them yesterday, he said he ditched it...dont know if he meant last year or yesterday. i would think the teflon additive that they use would increase the smoothness but what do i know. the polished bushings are a difference though

stock is 320ml in the damper and only 80 in the spring side for the 2010 Evo Ti. we used 250 in the spring side and i believe 340 now in the damper

i was also surprised to see where the taper actually is on the stanchion. its not at the top where the taper appears on the outside. the middle of the fork actually has the taper which would only add fuel to the fire of that 888 that broke at Rampage.

 

[Lelandjt]

The foam ring causes some drag and isnt necessary.

 

[Huck Banzai]

HELP! - My XHeavy spring clicks and rubs and makes noise, I dont like noise. I would like to put some shrink wrap on it like the stock spring had, but where do I get appropriate stuff. No thanks to a ghetto solution - anybody got a lead?

Thanks in advance,

Mr. Banzai

EDIT: Also, I'd like to maybe add some superslick additive as with the MZ Works tune - any recommends on an appropriate substance and recommende quantity/volume?

 

[IH8Rice]

HELP! - My XHeavy spring clicks and rubs and makes noise, I dont like noise. I would like to put some shrink wrap on it like the stock spring had, but where do I get appropriate stuff. No thanks to a ghetto solution - anybody got a lead?

Thanks in advance,

Mr. Banzai

EDIT: Also, I'd like to maybe add some superslick additive as with the MZ Works tune - any recommends on an appropriate substance and recommende quantity/volume?

make sure the spring is properly seated on its perch.

and as far as the teflon additive goes, Ronnie did say the stuff they use is very hard to come back. he told me the name, but i of course cant remember it now.

 

[Ithnu]

and as far as the teflon additive goes, Ronnie did say the stuff they use is very hard to come back. he told me the name, but i of course cant remember it now.

I asked MikeG about getting a bit of that on the side with one of my team's orders. He said they buy it in a big jug and don't really have a system for billing me for a tiny squirt bottle of the stuff.

I wonder what it is and if anyone could fine it in smaller quantities.

 

[Huck Banzai]

Also, I want to strip and polish/brush a spare set of lowers - any recommends on a clear coat method/product?

Information seeking Banzai seeks information.

 

[S.K.C.]

...and as far as the teflon additive goes, Ronnie did say the stuff they use is very hard to come by. He told me the name, but I of course cant remember it now.

The stuff they use is most likely TM-8 or TM-88.

It is a teflon additive that will mix down with the suspension fluid and can also be wiped/dried and buffed on the stanchions.

 

[IH8Rice]

The stuff they use is most likely TM-8 or TM-88.

It is a teflon additive that will mix down with the suspension fluid and can also be wiped/dried and buffed on the stanchions.

got a link? google seems to be failing me

 

[S.K.C.]

I know right?

This stuff literally IS the "Secret Sauce".

dhkid scored some in small batches about 4 years ago:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181688

Bullcrew also knows how to get the stuff.

 

[spoon]

Hi everyone,

I have a set of 2010 888 rc3 evos (non ti) and they're bloody soft, i keep bottoming them out with a massive CLACK, often on breaking into corners etc. I can push them through most of their travel if i bounce up and down with the front brake on.

I'm 81kg and have the VA all the way in and the HSC/LSC set to hard with quite a bit of preload....

Any ideas? harder spring or more oil ?

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how much oil to add and to which legs.

Is it a case of taking off the circlips and pouring some in the legs ?

many thanks !!

 

[Mo(n)arch]

Seems like there isn't enough oil in it. Maybe you should also check all the seals.
Get a rebuild to see if everything's right. (yeah I know that's odd...)

 

[Xetal]

What is the main purpose of foam rings ? I see everyone ditching them for grease.

 

[Lelandjt]

What is the main purpose of foam rings ? I see everyone ditching them for grease.

To hold oil up by the bushing/seal. On a cartridge fork with less oil splashing around they probably help, but there's enough oil in my 888 to keep the top of the sliders lubed. If you remove it from the spring side maybe add more oil.

 

[boylagz]

I forgot where I read it, but can someone confirm that the spring preload adjustment only works on the first 20mm of travel?