What's the different bolt holes for, different braking characteristics??
2011 Devinci Wilson DH
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Maybe 180 / 200 mm rotor?
the shock is 10-1/2" i2i with a 3-1/2" stroke. the different holes are to account for the adjustable chainstay length.
Where are ISCG tabs?
the ISCG tabs are replaceable and are part of a 'ring' that is mounted onto the spline before the BB cup is installed. clever system devinci has been pioneering for the past 6 or so years, imho.
Seems like more and more frames are going to 8" of travel and quite a few are also running the mega 10.5" shock. I know this lowers the leverage ratio but it seems the benefit of that in this range is more theoretical than actually realized. Personally, if I have to pay for the extra weight of that shock I would rather get 9" of travel and still have a relatively low leverage ratio.
Any way, I am not knocking this frame or design (I haven't ridden it yet so I can't say it doesn't work, I am just sayin'), it still looks like it is going to be pretty bad-azz.
Any way, I am not knocking this frame or design (I haven't ridden it yet so I can't say it doesn't work, I am just sayin'), it still looks like it is going to be pretty bad-azz.
They probably all gave up after they found out can not patent an idea that has already been shown to the public. Before DW or Trek, to promote the Gboxx, Nicolai showed off drawings of bike types using the G-boxx and one type is split pivot.
so thanks to Nicolai...trek and dw can save money on patents and don't have to fight .just a good idea for all.
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You make me laugh man, what a stretch.. You know that I personally designed the GBOXX standard, right? No apparently not..
The Nicolai is clearly a flex stay design, and I know this because I WORKED ON THE THING MYSELF.
Anyways, seeing as you have 12 posts all about Split Pivot, how about a couple posts about this here patent? http://split-pivot.com/Weagle%20Split%20Pivot%20Patent%207717212.pdf
More coming too, I promise.
Getting up on the hill on the real thing in about 30 minutes, it's been a blast so far.
There is a geometry adjust feature that's hidden in the dropout.What's the different bolt holes for, different braking characteristics??
Oooooo sneaky sneaky....yeah now i can see i lil flippy chippy on the inside or the dropout to adjust the wheelbase, nice
Good for Dave W!!!! Hope it all works out....
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sounds like those activities had been abandoned, which makes me sad. curious what the 'mysterybox' from a few years ago was all about.Seen. That's ace, nice and clean!
Oh and DW come on man, we need a gearbox bike! Make it happen
we've got suspension designs pretty well sorted now, and with bike weights hovering around the mid 30's we've got a bit of room for adding a bit of weight. i want to see the big brains go after the derailleur now.
Can you get "close to demo 8" brake activeness with the configuration of those lower links?
WTF! that bike looks tiny!
^ what are those shoes?
Wonder if that bike breaks chains?
Wonder if that bike breaks chains?
If thats Pendrel on the bike, his suspesion is always really soft, and he is pretty tall.
More info on PB, including geo ect...
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/2011-devinci-wilson-dexter-dixon.html
Also pics/info on the new Split Pivot AM bike as well.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/2011-devinci-wilson-dexter-dixon.html
Also pics/info on the new Split Pivot AM bike as well.
Where do you make the adjustments for "hi" and "lo" setting on the frame? At the shock eye perhaps?
i'm liking it, mostly because i have been waiting for a bigger name to use the split pivot design. too bad its from a brand that i wont be able to obtain
no ISCG tabs?
not very pleasing to the eye, but the tech is sure interesting.
If it is like previous Devinci frames, it uses a splined adaptor that goes beneath the drive-side BB cup - look at the third pic around the BB.
I don't mind the look....
Low slung...and the obvious advantage of carrying the wt. of the shock, etc. lower in the frame.
Being a short rider the curved tubes and low(er) standover is key for me.
Measurements not much different in the small from the 2010 horst WLSN. Except for slightly shorter CS which is a plus in my book.
Disadvantages...
Price tag likely to come with a frame like this. (for me, anyway.)
And, any DW Link and/or Split Piv looks to be a PIA to work on....
Low slung...and the obvious advantage of carrying the wt. of the shock, etc. lower in the frame.
Being a short rider the curved tubes and low(er) standover is key for me.
Measurements not much different in the small from the 2010 horst WLSN. Except for slightly shorter CS which is a plus in my book.
Disadvantages...
Price tag likely to come with a frame like this. (for me, anyway.)
And, any DW Link and/or Split Piv looks to be a PIA to work on....
i was kinda thinking thats what it was using. i didnt know the previous models used the adapter.
The design is slick.... and SOLID. Have loved it on my Devinci made Sinister Gruitr...
Can't understand why others haven't adopted their own versions of the design.
Foes finally went away from their proprietary chainguides and went to a splined adapter similar to this.
There was a pic earlier that showed that there was a flip chip where the seatstays join to the chainstays. Using the mount closest to the front triangle will result in higher BB/steeper head angle, and the opposite for the other mounting point.
It did use it.
Switch from ISCG to 05....
Bend a tab or something when using a taco bash? Replaceable.
It's a win/win.
No play in the design either. Only fits on one way. Like a keyed cut out.
This is ****ing awesome. With the current retarded trend of mounting a bashguard directly to the frame, I can only hope more manufacturers adopt a system similar to this.
Looks like an excellent design to me. But I don't like the tube profiles. Concave? That undermines the inherent strength advantages of a round tube. And all that silly hydroforming is just adding weight.
As an aside, I had an old square tubed K2 that I t-boned into a dirt bank. The square downtube folded like an accordion. I'm not sure that would have happened with a round tube.
As an aside, I had an old square tubed K2 that I t-boned into a dirt bank. The square downtube folded like an accordion. I'm not sure that would have happened with a round tube.
You mean that DW himself didn't already think of it? 
You mean that DW himself didn't already think of it?