Do you want to buy mine next year for $5k after I use it this year ? lol..
DW link maybe, made in the USA, WAY overrated
Not really, Nicolais have always been completely ridiculously priced, nobody seemed to follow that particular pricing structure. If you don't want to pay that much for a bike, buy something else... nice as the DHR is, there are dozens of other bikes out there that are far cheaper and just as much fun.
No patents.
Wait until they break left, right and center and then you are happy that you didn't have the money to buy one.
no patents, less middle men, WAY less FEA(if any), no gigantic, impeccably machined mid section, no 3 years in devolopment
you'll be waiting a long time to see that happenWait until they break left, right and center and then you are happy that you didn't have the money to buy one.
They have been in development for long enough. Plenty of gorgeous machining on them too. I personally trust the 100% competent construction on it more than computer simulations with half-assed frame production like you see with a lot of high end DH bikes.
Hope so!you'll be waiting a long time to see that happen
nicolai are reasonable priced if you pay in euros...
in frank's defense, his bike is two or three years worth of real world testing and refinement, in addition to his expertise as a welder and bike designer. not prototype to public in months. FEA is perfectly valid...on a computer. Real world testing reveals issues that computers can't always predict...like what happens when joe the dh bike rider forgets to wash the sand out of his shock pivot after riding at highland for a week straight? Or stacks his bikes on top of each other in the back of his parents nomad wagon? Plus, to my knowledge, everything is done by frank in house.
True , if you cant afford it you wont buy it, you will buy something else! just buy a giant glory for $1500
You guys have it so freaken easy. $3200 blah blah freaken blah.
In a pinkbike interveiw from a day or two ago Dave Turner said that all Turners are 100% made in the USA.
I think Dave Turner said it best - I don't want to hear any bitching about the price. And look what you're doing.
Made in the USA or not doesnt really make a difference to me. Welds are welds, and frames are as good as there welds are. Not saying Turner has bad welds, hell, they have some of the best I've seen, but its up to par with good taiwanese welders too... so yeah, made in the USA shouldnt really be a selling point. I can see why so many people buy into it though.
Yes, welds are welds. Robots can weld, 8 y/o boys can weld, and even certified, trained welders can weld. QC is only as strong as its weakest point in the process. It's all subjective.
Quite ironic when DT himself was telling everyone last fall these frames would be shipping late spring/early summer. Most of us who ordered DHR's in early spring have still not seen our DHR's on anything other than online pics. I've now sadly realized I could have got a Demo 8 or Glory from Asia, had a blast riding it all season, and then broke and warrantied about every single part in probably less time than its going to take to get a DHR. So Turner (at least with getting the DHR out the door) has hardly been a good example of a manufacturing supply chain benefits being based in the US IMHO. IF, and that's a big IF, I ever see my DHR before it starts snowing, then maybe I'll ride it enough to brake something to learn if their supply chain for warranty parts is any better.
Yep, and they have been great about telling me! At the end of April the answer we got was "4-6 weeks". I've got that answer every time my shop has asked since then. Hence my point about supply chains. My bet is most consumers care less about if its in country X vs Y then if you actually ship when you say you will and know what is going on with your supply chain and manufacturing process/scheduling. New stuff always takes longer, but if you set customers expectations correctly, this can be easily managed. When you tell your customers May and in Oct your customers still don't have product, who wouldn't be disappointed, especially when you keep telling them its just a month out?
