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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by demo 9, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. demo 9

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    Medium zerode G1 with a CCDB-DSP Ti spring
    888 Evo ti 2
    E13 Cranks and chainring with a zerode spacer
    Formula RO brakes on Avid rotors
    Canfield Crampon pedals-a Must!
    SDG seat and post
    Answer Bars n Stem-with cool graphics of course
    Industry 9 wheels laced to mavic 823s-trusty DHF's mounted tubeless
    KMC 9 speed chains
    NO Derailur, NO chainguide, NO hassles!
     

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  2. Udi

    Udi RM Chief Ornithologist: “I Brake for Birds”

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    is your mother single?
     
  3. no skid marks

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    Tidy. I had no luck getting shifter in good possision with Formula The Ones. I run shifter rotated and hit lower gear button with back of thumb nail but. Also didn't have much running those cranks centered between stays. Great if you got it all to work though looks cool, accept black lowers would be dope, but who cares. Enjoy.
    Glad to see the DSP spring fits on the DB.
     
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  4. MrPlow

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    Awesome.
    Weight. Comon, you knew that was coming.
     
  5. SCARY

    SCARY Not long enough

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    I need more of these green square things^^
    Yeah,weight..or it dosent exist.



    Awesome,by the way.
     
  6. ianjenn

    ianjenn Turbo Monkey

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    Looks pretty killer. The E13 cranks need some grinding to clear the frame. Just keep that in mind, I am guessing 40.75 LBS as built. Check the drive chain in a week or two and tighten the hub to take out the slack!
     
  7. SCARY

    SCARY Not long enough

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    I need more of these green square things^^
    Man,that's a good guess.


    39.93 lbs.
     
  8. Demomonkey

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    I approve of this thread and it contents. Nice work OP. NZGBFSDHFTW!!!!
     
  9. gonefirefightin

    gonefirefightin free wieners

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    I want to see it shifting and see it flex......do it now
     
  10. ustemuf

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    how does it ride vs the demo?
     
  11. sethimus

    sethimus scroll all you want!

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    where's the other one?
     
  12. ianjenn

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    Well you cannot see it shift and they literally do not flex. But you can hear it shift. We need a mic. ASAP next to the Alfine.
     
  13. rollertoaster

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    Nice build. I so badly want one of these bikes for next season.
     
  14. slyfink

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    that's pretty badass... looking forward to the ride report and some MCBP ride footage... congrats.
     
  15. demo 9

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    You guys are too high on the weight, 43.10 (no Ti spring in the fork) That said, its centralized in the frame, so its probably still going to ride "light"
     
  16. 'size

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    winner.
     
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    My guess (before I got this far in the thread) was 42lb. The weight is what put me off of buying one - even when you take into account ditching your mech, chain device, etc, switching to the Zerode adds a lot of weight to your bike.

    I worked out that switching from my 2009 Devinci Wilson to a Zerode would add 4-5lb to my bike. But with an lg1+, dura ace mech and an 11-19 six speed cassette, I'm an extreme example. People with heavier mechs/cassettes/chaindevices/frames might "only" gain a pound or two of heft...

    4-5lb was too much for me, whatever the benefits of a Zerode might be. I'll reconsider when they bring out the next revision of it, whenever that will be.
     
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    LUV it
     
  19. xy9ine

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    that's the mtb equivalent of 'big boned', yes?

    great looking bike, regardless.
     
  20. ianjenn

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    The team riders had their at 38LBS with Boxxers, Stans, Air rear. Stuff that wont survive at least here in SLO. Our 2-11 weighed 41.5 LBS without pedals. The TR450 we tested was 40 the Legend was 40 the SC V-10 was 39 with a Boxxer. It is a few pounds heavier for sure. But rides very well. So trade off for me durability and no maintenance outweigh the weight penalty and they will only get lighter.
     
  21. CBJ

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    Doing big bone for first production run may not be too bad of an idea.

    Killer looking bike. First bike in a long time that I would like to give a try.
     
  22. marshalolson

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    dammit man, that is a good looking bike.
     
  23. xy9ine

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    for sure. i think i read somewhere the current run shed a pound or so from the 1st iteration. refinement is going on, and from what i've heard so far, they've been bomber. building in carbon is of course, the next logical step.
     
  24. Nick

    Nick My name is Nick

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    This.
    Ride reports, por favor.
     
  25. SCARY

    SCARY Not long enough

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    I need more of these green square things^^
    43 lbs?!!

    I just went flaccid.
     
  26. Kntr

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    That's pretty light. Mine weighs 43.5.
     
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    With such a high pivot and so much CS growth do you feel it when manualling or other situations? I'm sure it eats fast hits but is there a downside to such a rearward axle path?
     
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    The downside is abysmal pedaling performance, however that is offset by running the chain through the gearbox.

    Thus the only downside is additional weight due to the design constraints.
     
  29. ianjenn

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    The CS follows the fork almost perfect, meaning the CS stays the same the whole way through travel. Yes it is harder to manual BTW.......
     
  30. Udi

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    The CS can't stay the same if it follows the fork, I think you mean WB.

    Bike looks awesome in any case. 43lbs is a bit hefty for a light-ish build though.
     
  31. IH8Rice

    IH8Rice I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!

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    its like the good ol' days of having to modify parts to work on DH frames.
     
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    Yeah that's right, net growth is in neighborhood of 1.5" so not much under full compression.

    Yeah the Carbon XO clear, Saint, but the E13 need grinding to clear rear stays next version will fit fine!
     
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    That thing is beautiful.

    Whats the maintenance like on the internal gearing? Something that can be done at home? Details?
     
  34. no skid marks

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    You probably should remove Alfine, take casing off, clean in solvent, regrease, and put back together annually. Shouldn't take more than half hour. Apparently you can put 40wt gear oil or equivalent in them to make them shift a touch quicker and have less friction, but it's not an issue with a DH bike.
    In nearly two years I've done the initial cable stretch adjustment, and one other, and lubbed the chains, otherwise no drivetrain maintenance. Still on original chains too.
    The little tensioner is probably the weakest link. The springs seem to snap with some people, but well after a years use. and they're easy to replace, I think most single speed tensioners would work on the Zerode.
    It would be nice to get them lighter, but nobody that has one would sell it for weight reasons. The rear end is lighter than most bikes, the weight is low and centered, so it's like you're heavier, not the bike, the rest of the bike rotates around the centered mass, the rear end is super responsive. The pros far outweigh the weight cons. Dead lift weight isn't riding weight. The weight has no leverage effect as it's in the middle, Not sure how much this would make a difference, but figured it'd make some.
    A bit of centralized weight helps stabilize the bike, and give the suspension something to work against when bike's unweighted.
     
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    Im mobile so im going to keep ot short but his bike is unreal. Just finished practice at windham and im amazed. This bike eats up anything in its path. Dont notice the weight-and id go so far as to say that it rides like my sub 40 dh bikes ive owned. I can pedal over anything. I give it a 12/10. This is unreal! Proper review wheni get home
     
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    Once there is a real large I will be riding one
    Maybe Demo 9 will let me take his for a ride
     
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    I wonder if they have them in stock
     
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    Yes in Silver, Black and Blue!
     
  40. sethimus

    sethimus scroll all you want!

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    not in Whistler anymore :/
    anyone tried an air shock in it?