http://www.competitivecyclist.com/frame/2012-santa-cruz-bicycles-v10-frame-with-dhx-rc4-19370.html?cmp_id=EM_SAL15346a2&mv_pc=r105
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2013 santa cruz v10 carbon delivery updates?
- Thread starter chillindrdude
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Hey Joeg, since you were helping us out and keeping track, I just thought I should let you know that I received my V10c frame last Monday April 8th. Thanks for keeping us informed! Just waiting for a hub conversion kit now (that new 157mm standard fixed a problem that didn't exist in my opinion).
Thanks for the update. Agreed on the 157 thing - there was no real problem with 150, but it does bring DH hubs into line with all the 142 systems, and allows the use of the same der hanger (and direct mount hanger) used on every other VPP bike we make, so it seemed worth it while throwing down for the carbon swingarm tooling.
I hope you're rolling shortly.
Joeg, are all sizes now available? As apparently there are only a few mediums i green available here in Europe, and no reds until July?
Can I specify a DM hanger with my V10 frame or must I buy it seperately?
Hard for me to know, depends on your country and distributor.
Gotta buy it separately. Here's the link if you want to check it out.
http://shop.santacruzbicycles.com/parts-and-tools/by-model/nomad/nomad-2-0-2-1/frame-parts/do-kit-142-ta-direct-mount.html
Got my frame and have a DM hanger on order! So what's the prescribed method for removing and installing the thru-axle? I hope there's a quicker way to get it off than removing the hanger bolt to access the 5mm hex in the end of the axle.
Also, which chainstay protectors go in which spots?
Edit: I looked at photos and figured out the frame protectors. I also weighed them at 140g! I also found that to install/remove the axle you stick a 5mm hex through the 6mm hanger bolt to turn the axle. The frame came with a Fox shock manual, a really brief SC shock setup guide, and a catalog but a more complete frame manual with info on the pivot hardware, thru-axle, ect would be nice.
Also, which chainstay protectors go in which spots?
Edit: I looked at photos and figured out the frame protectors. I also weighed them at 140g! I also found that to install/remove the axle you stick a 5mm hex through the 6mm hanger bolt to turn the axle. The frame came with a Fox shock manual, a really brief SC shock setup guide, and a catalog but a more complete frame manual with info on the pivot hardware, thru-axle, ect would be nice.
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It's on their website under the "Support" tab at the bottom. http://www.santacruzbikes.com/tech/v10-4-bearing.php
Though I don't have it with me to check I thought my V10.4c came with Ti bolts in the upper and lower linkage, shock mounts, and axle pinch. This V10.5c looks to have Ti upper link and shock mount bolts but steel in the lower link, axle expander, and fork bumpers. Is this the case? I've already swapped black aluminum bolts into the frame bumpers and axle expander and when I get both frames together I'll swap the old Ti lower link bolts into the new frame if these have changed.
Why bother? Frame is already hella light.
Upgraditis doesn't follow the laws of logic
I'm selling my old frame to a friend. If it has Ti bolts in it and my new one doesn't why not keep the Ti bolts? A little wrench spinning isn't a bother.
Mar,k did you ever figure out the answer to your question? I am wondering the same thing.
I'm wondering if anyone around 200lbs with the 2013 has dialed in a solid base tune with the stock fox shock, and if so please post it up.
I've been running mine in 8.5' mode with a #450 spring and find it jumps nose heavy. I know the answer to that is usually slow down rebound but I don't think I can run it any slower. I'm running 5 clicks from full slow right now and think the shock would start packing up for sure if I slowed it down anymore. I've been out in the bike park 5 days in a row trying to get it dialed but just can't get it to feel right. I'm actually trying to speed up my fork rebound now to see if that will compensate.
Any base tunes along with, rider weight, spring rate, and travel setting with the stock RC4 I would be interested to hear.
I've been running mine in 8.5' mode with a #450 spring and find it jumps nose heavy. I know the answer to that is usually slow down rebound but I don't think I can run it any slower. I'm running 5 clicks from full slow right now and think the shock would start packing up for sure if I slowed it down anymore. I've been out in the bike park 5 days in a row trying to get it dialed but just can't get it to feel right. I'm actually trying to speed up my fork rebound now to see if that will compensate.
Any base tunes along with, rider weight, spring rate, and travel setting with the stock RC4 I would be interested to hear.
More LSC will make it wallow less and then pop less off jumps. In the 8.5" setting try 1/2LSC, 1/3HSC, 1 turn BO, 160psi. For your weight in the 10" setting get a 500lb spring and 2/3LSC, 1/2HSC, 2 turns BO, 165psi. While playing with rebound get the fork faster until it skitters out in flat turns or bounces too much off bumps. Set the rear a little slower than the front.
Changing the bottom out 1 turn was a game changer! Really feels completely different and much more tunable now! Thanks.
Glad it's working for you. I use a Vivid Air but have been tuning my friend's RC4 equipped V10. Not an easy shock to dial in due to the overlapping effects of the LSC, HSC, pressure, and volume adjustments. We put everything in the middle and started fiddling from there. I save the 8.5" setting for dirtjumps and trail riding with climbs and want it quite firm for that. For everything else I like the 10" setting and focus my tuning energy there.
This bike is so light it's the first DH bike I've been able to ride like a regular mountain bike. After a spring of using it for XC rides when I showed up to the Angel Fire Enduro and saw how gnarly the tracks were I decided the best way to avoid mechanicals and flat tires on my enduro bike was to race my DH bike. There was only a little climbing but a fair amount of flat pedaling and all the little accelerations out of turns. No mechanicals or crashes, 13th place in pro, and the only rider (Am or Pro) on a DH bike.
Photo Credit: Daniel Dunn From Velonews' coverage of the event: http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/06/mtb/gallery-2013-angel-fire-big-mountain-enduro_291248
Photo Credit: Daniel Dunn From Velonews' coverage of the event: http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/06/mtb/gallery-2013-angel-fire-big-mountain-enduro_291248
It's pretty funny isn't it?
With AM wheels, tires, and brakes, you're looking at 30-31lb without any exotic parts. Pretty crazy.
My own V10C is under 34lb without a single XC/AM/roadie component - still using M810 brakes, dual ply wire DHF and tubes. That's with a Vivid Air though. Some may consider that a compromise, but I like it. Throw on a roadie cassette and some Formula R0's and it should touch 33lb... Yikes.
With AM wheels, tires, and brakes, you're looking at 30-31lb without any exotic parts. Pretty crazy.
My own V10C is under 34lb without a single XC/AM/roadie component - still using M810 brakes, dual ply wire DHF and tubes. That's with a Vivid Air though. Some may consider that a compromise, but I like it. Throw on a roadie cassette and some Formula R0's and it should touch 33lb... Yikes.
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The Vivid Air is not a compromise,. That shock flat out performs. I wish Canecreek would give a Vivid Air base tune for the V10. THere are a number of us running this option now.
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I agree it's pretty crazy. I have DHF dual ply wire beads, 40 float, DBair ,all DH parts (aside from dura ace cassette) and my V10c is 31.6 Lbs.
Are you confused, or am I missing something? Why would Cane Creek provide a base tune for a Vivid Air?
Wait what? Either your or my scale is broken... Which tires & wheels & cranks & brakes do you have?
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Here are some specs and numbers off the top of my head:
2013 medium V10c
2014 Fox 40 Float fork - 6.03 Lbs
Cane Creek DB air - 567 Grams (with hardware)
Maxxis DHF 2.5" dual ply wire bead tires front and rear setup tubless
Race Face Sixc Cranks - 486 Grams (arms only)
2013 Industry Nine Torch Gravity wheels, 28.5mm I.D. rim - 1,820 Grams
Formula RO brakes with aluminum carrier 203mm / 180mm rotors w/ Ti hardware
Enve DH handle bars cut to 780mm - 220 grams
Point One 50mm DM stem w/Ti bolts - 104 Grams
Thomson Masterpiece seat post w/Ti barrels
SDG Ti fly saddle - 198 grams
E13 LG1+ chain guide
Twenty6 Ti predator pedals - 358 grams
Chris King Headset and Bottom Bracket
Shimano Dura Ace 11-28 cassette - 188 grams
Shimano Saint M820 rear der. and shifter
Shimano M980 XTR chain
Misc. Titanium bolts
The cranks and frame are wrapped in 3m protective satin tape
Total weight - 31.6 Lbs.
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Sorry Canecreek Air. I should not be checking Ride Monkey while on the phone