2015+ fox 36 harsh
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Anybody have any time on the 2016 fit4 damper? Is it the damping the same aside from the lack of high speed adjustment since you have low speed adjustment in the open setting?? I just sold my lyrik dpa to get 36 talas and of course now the only 36 talas rc2's I can find are full retail being they are 2017's...could save around 500$ getting a slightly used fit4 one..I dont ever mess with my clickers once I have it setup but Ive never felt a fit4...dont want to buy another fork Im going to have to sell in 2 months like I did with the lyrik..
U didnt like lyrik?
Getting the FIT4 over the RC2 will be lining up for exactly the same deal as last time, you seem like the kind of rider sensitive enough to appreciate and utilise a proper LSC/HSC adjustable damper. While changing for different tracks is a fringe benefit, the main benefit is that you can get solid mid-speed support without excessive harshness over small bumps / chatter by utilising more on the HS preload adjuster and less on the LS.
Plus maybe the 2017 model will come with the added bonus of ironing out whatever 50% of the owners here seem to be complaining about...
Do you need the travel adjust?
In my experience for friction it's always been Van >>> Float > Talas. They do update it all the time though so hopefully it's good, fingers crossed for ya.
Definitely better than the float I used.
I don't even use the travel adjust
I've had the talas assembly partially apart a few times just to mess with the travel. It's nothing like any other previous talas thing.
It's just like a coil: In that I bottom the shit out of it if I don't use enough HS compression damping.
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I take it you think the Float ramps up more?
I had to put a bunch of volume spacers in mine to get it to where I'm happy with it, and that's running substantially more air pressure and a little more HSC damping than recommended.
That's where it does well. It honestly doesn't feel great unless you're really smashing it into stuff pretty hard. Just cruising it's harsh.
Got it back and have to admit, the Fox service is pretty damn good. Supposedly I already had latest damper, but it is pretty drastic improvement. Not 100% yet, but i haven't been able to fully dial it in yet. The head tech even called me and picked my brain for about 30min so I gotta give Fox props. Only thing he could see that was possibly causing it was a redesigned quad seal. So they tore it down, totally rebuilt it with latest seals. I also wonder if the damper was overfilled. He did not tear it down personally, only did the rebuild.
Mind sharing who that was you talked to?
Jp or jt. One thing he recommended was running rebound almost all the way closed. It is weird, im about 155lbs and running 6 clicks out. I dont see how heavier riders can get away with that.
Do you plan on selling these heads?
I have a couple left. The others my buddies have spoken for already. If there is enough interest, i can get another batch made easily enough.
I have the same tube of blue loctite. Works well, but the actual tube sucks. It spits out way more than I need and it leaks.
Nice work, that's a great find.
I feel like @mrgto might appreciate / benefit from the same thing on his.
count me in
Nice work!
I think you could have made the increase in volume of the negative chamber bigger by machining away more material, isn't it?
I think you could have made the increase in volume of the negative chamber bigger by machining away more material, isn't it?
Im adding almost double the volume 1 travel spacer gets you.
The rest of you, ill pm you guys in a bit.
The rest of you, ill pm you guys in a bit.
I'll buy one as well
Everyone who buys one of these needs to save the receipts and send them in to Fox for reimbursement.
Mine just came back from Fox for annual service, feels the same as before I shipped it (I'd just serviced the air spring a few weeks before).
My '17 has this issue. If you do another run, I'd buy one
Yeah i sent my fork in for warranty because of the harshness, they did a full rebuild and changed all the seals, it was marginally better.
I'm in for one too!
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/2018-fox-36-first-ride.html
"The biggest change is on the air spring side, which receives an increased negative spring volume, as well as a simplified design that eliminates a seal and makes it even easier to add or remove volume spacers."
However -
"That being said, I did find that my hands felt a little more fatigued after plowing through extended choppy sections of trail compared to the RockShox Lyrik that I'd had on my bike previously."
"The biggest change is on the air spring side, which receives an increased negative spring volume, as well as a simplified design that eliminates a seal and makes it even easier to add or remove volume spacers."
However -
"That being said, I did find that my hands felt a little more fatigued after plowing through extended choppy sections of trail compared to the RockShox Lyrik that I'd had on my bike previously."
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That is why the negative air volume increase by itself doesnt fix the root cause. Theyre always going to have some people singing its praises, and some people wondering what the other people are smoking because it doesnt sound like they fixed the fundamental issue.
That's the part I hate the most about my fork. It feels ok till I'm going fast riding thru baby heads, then it jackhammers!
My fork just got to Fox today so hopefully they will give me a call and I'll see if they can swap in the 18 parts.