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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by peecee, Jun 21, 2014.
whoa- is that a non-proprietary shock mount? looks like a big fuggin' bearing there too.
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yeah i get stoked with new bikes... especially a frame that hasn't changed much in years
Nah, specialized would never do that.
saving that for next year's model
jesus, all this hopping around on rear axle sizes is killing me.
This looks like an M1, a Rotec and a Sinister R9 all ran a train on a Demo, and now they're all playing "who's the real father" on Maury Povich.
Anyway, some product manager over there at S needs a prompt skullfvcking. From the same company who introduces and hypes numerous silly standards, of which this industry has WAY too many.....comes a design using an existing and outdated hub standard with a 650B M1 frame! All with the added benefit of disposable super low chainstays! We never EVER tag our brake rotors on things, right?? Nothing could POSSIBLY go wrong with that.
I also like how they have their premier rider convinced that it actually has less pivots too.....LOLZ.
where'd you find the hub standard info?
rather be grinding chain stays than bending a rotor in a race run; does offer a nice bit of protection, if unintentional.
i'm not a specialized fanboy, but i think this is hot, aesthetically speaking, anyways. some nice fresh thinking, utilizing the design flexibility of carbon (re: the asymmetry).
You'll hit them less with a 135 rear end
Ahem.....'fewer' pivots hack, fewer. It's the opposite of 'moar'.
I think it looks great.
Geometry and more - http://www.vitalmtb.com/product/fea...-New-2015-Specialized-S-Works-Demo-Carbon,271
They could remove another part of seattube as well and run invisible Boxxer fork
Heck it is possible with carbon .. You dont sit on saddle much.
it means less Shimz?
This pic shows the BB pivot a little better
still pressfit garbage.
it's a new old standard.
12x135, but a square axle.
Ah specialized, using metric, when everyone else uses SAE for bike measurements. Cracks me up when even small companies' website have buttons to automatically swap between units.
I thought that was a joke...
Specialized marketing department has outdone itself. I hope they get a really phat bonus for this one.
On the other hand... Enduro.
SAE is horrible and should be stamped out for good.
I like that this bike is a little different than the norm, not that I will ever own one. Would like to see some e-theorage about how concentric might be OK after the last decade of "it's the worst thing ever except for on 1.5" DJ bikes with 900 lb springs."
It's horrible but it's the standard and what everyone is calibrated to.
Because those bikes were single pivots, not virtual pivots. I still think this bike is going to suck once the instant center hits the bb line, but I can't e theorize that well. I predict that it'll start with lots of anti squat then drop into the negatives deep in travel.
Hey at least we're not alone. There's another country up on the northwest side of Canada in that picture that looks like they use SAE too!
On that note, how long are the table tops on crabapple? In centimeters? That's normally how you guys discuss that sort of thing right?
While that might be true, and while designing in metric might be arguably easier, two facts remain:
1) The majority of their target market, the US, uses SAE.
2) It takes NO effort for them to provide the info in BOTH formats, but all of their US customer base (see fact 1) have to get annoyed spending time converting because Specialized is too lazy or ignorant to just do it once.
Getting slightly off the topic, I know I ride a 20ish inch frame for xc. What that is in cm I have nooo idea. And I ride in miles. S'all screwy.
Maybe the Math is just to complex? And yes its annoying as hell I do agree.
Perhaps their server space is running out of room.
I haven't been keeping track recently, but since Antarctica also uses the imperial system, are they now one of our unincorporated territories? Manifest destiny FTW...
Giant NRS rear end???
that's probably the closest in terms of the distance between the axle and pivot. intense had a few years with a horst link that was substantial as well.
That's how you get a concentric pivot to work. Teh skwats vs. teh antiskwats, dual to the skwatdeth!
Maybe Spec should propose a new International Standard for measurement that most of the world could agree to use?
I ride a size M TR450; not sure exactly how many Myanmarian king's thumb digits that represents.
Let me get this straight, Spesh is going to charge more for less chainstays and seatstays?! TROLOLOLOL
they might as well just run a fox 40 where the top tube is directly to the swingarm. I mean it couldnt get an uglier.
Cant wait until so average joe has a post about pinching his inner thigh in the spring.
The bike is cool and all, but did any of you guys notice the fork that Brad Benedict(I think) is riding in the product launch video? Gold colored, looks inverted- Ohlins fork maybe? You can get a good view of it around 1:40 in the video.
Nah it's all good.
White brothers dh1.
Gold as fvck™
with only 7 cogs out back the 135 hub width makes perfect sense , as for the frame design and suspension i like the look never knew it was a single sided seat tube but i like the look and would love too try one out .
Too much "Advanced finite element analysis" going on in there.