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2016 Election Post Mortem (aka Monday Morning QB)

N8 v2.0

N8 v2.0

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johnbryanpeters said:
C'mon, Nate, we have never had unbiased and objective media. It has been an ideal floating around, but I can't cite a source that has come close to realizing it.
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No, but this is really the first time the media went all "open kimono" dispensing with even a hint of objectivity and made it blatantly obvious they were in bed with a peticular candidate.
 
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N8 v2.0 said:
No, but this is really the first time the media went all "open kimono" dispensing with even a hint of objectivity and made it blatantly obvious they were in bed with a particular candidate.
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Bull. Yellow journalism during the advent of newspapering was notorious for having a particular slant. 'objective' journalism didn't exist until about the the sixties...
 
AngryMetalsmith

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So is there any chance that something will happen before the Inauguration to derail Trump such as pending lawsuits, treason (Russia), election rigging, failing health, meteorites, etc. ? I have a hard time believing that with Trump being an obvious threat to our democracy and Clinton's ruthless nature that there is not some intense behind the scenes events unfolding. I would be surprised if there is not a bombshell before he takes office. Seems highly unlikely that Trump will smoothly transition to the White House.
 
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I'm wondering if he'll get bored with being President and all it's constraints & responsibilities in a couple years and resign.
 
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jonKranked said:
will he commit an impeachable offense before he gets bored? or will he do it once he gets bored?
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He is going to commit numerous impeachable offenses as President. His cooperation and admiration for Russia is a pretty good indicator. Colluding with our adversaries is, I believe, treasonous.

The problem is that there is on one to oppose him let alone impeach him. I cannot for the life of me fathom a scenario in which Trump's actions would draw the ire of his fellow Repubs enough to impeach him. And if by some bizarre occurrence that he was impeached, that still might not get him out of office. Remember, Bill Clinton was impeached over lying about a blowjob and yet he did not step down.
 
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N8 v2.0 said:
I'm not so sure. I can easily see Trump thinking himself as something Bigger than being a mere President and stepping aside to 'level up."
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I see where you are going with that, but keep in mind Trump is one of the most notorious bullies in the US and is soon to be the most powerful man in the world. It's his wet dream.
 
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AngryMetalsmith said:
Remember, Bill Clinton was impeached over lying about a blowjob and yet he did not step down.
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he was impeached for lying under oath (about said bj). him not stopping down was a calculated move, IIRC he believed that while there was enough support to impeach him, there was not enough to remove him from office (he was correct).
 
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I was thinking the White House will probably be demolished and a Taj Mahal built in it's place.
 
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jonKranked said:
that's a pretty funny statement when you consider the context that the taj mahal is a mausoleum :rofl:
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Um, ok, but I'm talking about real history, where the winner writes the history, not that fake ass shit in books. The Taj Mahal is a casino. Nobody is going to read fucking history anymore. What are you, a retard?

 
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Jm_ said:
I was thinking the White House will probably be demolished and a Taj Mahal built in it's place.
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I've been wondering if the white pillars out front will be painted gold and a TRUMP sign put up top...
 
N8 v2.0

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6thElement said:
I've been wondering if the white pillars out front will be painted gold and a TRUMP sign put up top...
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Trump could go the route of Angel Merkel (Chancellor of Germany) and live in a private home instead of the official residence. Although for the opposition reason as she.
 
N8 v2.0

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AngryMetalsmith said:
He is going to commit numerous impeachable offenses as President. His cooperation and admiration for Russia is a pretty good indicator. Colluding with our adversaries is, I believe, treasonous.

The problem is that there is on one to oppose him let alone impeach him. I cannot for the life of me fathom a scenario in which Trump's actions would draw the ire of his fellow Repubs enough to impeach him. And if by some bizarre occurrence that he was impeached, that still might not get him out of office.
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Careful what you wish for....

At the end of the September conversation, Lichtman made another call: That if elected, Trump would eventually be impeached by a Republican Congress that would prefer a President Mike Pence – someone who establishment Republicans know and trust.

"I'm going to make another prediction," he said. "This one is not based on a system, it's just my gut. They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence – an absolutely down the line, conservative, controllable Republican. And I'm quite certain Trump will give someone grounds for impeachment, either by doing something that endangers national security or because it helps his pocketbook."
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Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article114159223.html#storylink=cpy
 
N8 v2.0

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Hillary says it's the FBI's fault she lost and (ironically) the medias...
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Clinton aides claim FBI and the media cost Hillary the election

http://dailym.ai/2g3G7sy

Yet...

Neither post-mortem mentioned issues that were under Clinton's control, such as her decision to set up and use a private email server, her decision to give paid speeches up until she announced her candidacy, or her involvement with the Clinton foundation while serving as secretary of state.

Nor did they address pressures within the party early in the campaign to put forward Clinton as the Democratic nominee and try to clear away opposition to avoid a heavily contested primary. It was only in the last days of the campaign that Clinton traveled to Michigan, following movement in the polls, and she didn't visit Wisconsin after the convention despite appeals to go. Although she made frequent visits to Pennsylvania, it was generally assumed she would carry the state, although she lost it.[\quote]
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