2020 speculation thread
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@stoney - as someone who grew up not well off (not poor, my parents had essentials covered but disposable income was a rarity) and who is reasonably well off currently (bootstrapped!), i have a strong appreciation for the kinds of social and economic safeguards i'm voting for. i was exposed to poverty growing up as well, and that was very impactful as well.
Agree. Living in a van made a big impact on me and honestly, there are parts of me that I can tell have been ingrained that never got beyond that point of having very limited income. I still struggle to pay people to do services that I can do on my own, even if I don't have the time to do them. Especially if it's something that I need to learn how to do in the process - I still do them on my own a lot.
There are studies that show people who grow up poor struggle to pay others for services they can perform and also struggle to take risk with investments. I have to fight myself to take chance with our money to grow it. I know I need to, I know why I need to , but I still struggle to.
i can relate to this a lot. i absolutely refuse to pay someone else to mow my lawn, a lot of the simpler things. There are definitely things I *could* do myself, or learn to do myself, but I will always research into it and make a determination whether or not it's worth my time to learn or just pay someone else.
As someone that grew up poor, and who is a practically a fucking tycoon now (thank you reasonably-priced university education!), the "I got mine, so everybody else can too" attitude of people really pisses me off.
not sure if sarcasm or if you need some pushups
Or maybe, and I know might be talking crazy, but just maybe you guys aren't dead eyed fucking sociopathic bullies who need to punch down and blame their every failure on a poor and/or different looking or acting person from you. It might be that you're decent people for whom the system actually worked, capable of empathy who recognize that everything isnt perfect and we can improve the world for everyone.
Could probably use some pushups... but yeah - grew up dirt poor in rural Michigan. Never really knew we were poor until many years later. May be exaggerating the "tycoon" part a bit as well.
watch donna brazile lose her shit....essentially being called out....finger waving and all...
Dear Democratic party: it's time to stop rigging the primaries | Heather Gautney
If Democrats want any hope of voting Trump out, they must fix the broken primary system before the next electionwww.theguardian.com
Edit: Both of those articles are years old now. NOTHING has changed and near as I can tell. They have learned nothing and are doubling down on it. The DNC has decided that party>country. "Vote for our candidate and shut up proles! We know better than you!"
Though to be fair, ignoring their own post-election loss summary and doubling down on stupid seemed to work for the GOP after mittens lost in 2012, sooooo.........Who knows?
pete is going to be hall monitor if they win.Buch & Pete to both endorse Camaro Joe.
Both her and Wasserman-shultz need to be put out to political pasture.
Sounds like a reach
i'm not sure whether or not the founding fathers envisioned a future where the country was full of assholes.
yea but they didn't have the internet
It is for Watz, for damn sure!
Agreed. Pretty sure the world was chock full of assholes, is chock full of assholes, and will always be chock full of assholes. Eons and eons off assholery, and I'm sure humanity will continue to one-up its addiction to assholeishness until we wipe our asshole selves off of this planet.
So what happens to the "electability" argument if Bernie pulls down CA and TX? Cause it's looking that way with TX.
This guy is a hero. He put all the AP state charts and data into one webpage.
Woof, sanders lost MA. And biden overperformed in VT. Will be interesting to see california. Joementum? Get me some more dank memes, jon.
Warren took ~5-10% more in MA than anywhere else. She took the spread from Bernie. She really needs to step out for the Progressives to Bernie.
I don't think Bernie is capable of pulling in Independents and moderate GOPers that can't stomach Trump because the Democrats are going to need them to beat that sitting asshole.
He just pulled down UT in a big way.
On a related note to the Election.
We had a choice, Paper Ballot or electronic touch screen here in the City of Livermore ,Alameda County, Calif where most of the residents either work at or did work at The Livermore National Laboratory . While I was there at least 50 people voted and not one chose the electronic touch screen. I would venture to say no one trusted not having a paper trail. I know I didn't
We had a choice, Paper Ballot or electronic touch screen here in the City of Livermore ,Alameda County, Calif where most of the residents either work at or did work at The Livermore National Laboratory . While I was there at least 50 people voted and not one chose the electronic touch screen. I would venture to say no one trusted not having a paper trail. I know I didn't
Where one would assume the Democrats to be moderate?
Perhaps, but I could see a lot of SLC being pretty progressive, with most of the rest of the State of course being Book of Moron cultists and/or doomsday preppers. And let's face it, if you're going to yell at clouds, you'd be hard pressed to find a more scenic place to do it inWhere one would assume the Democrats to be moderate?
My entire state just switched back to a paper system.
he's more capable of pulling in the votes of people under 40, and at this point that is arguably more important than independents and moderate R's
This. Gen Y and Millennials aren't passionate about Biden like they are Bernie. They won't come out for him. Which means the Democrats will lose all the way down the ticket too. Republicans will stay in charge through the census reallocation of seats.
Party's over guys. Democracy was a great experiment.