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2023 Snowshoe WC

ebarker9

Monkey
Oct 2, 2007
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Just watched Dean Lucas's videos about his crash. Jeeeez. Really happy that it looks like he'll be alright, that was horrendous.
 

6thElement

Schrodinger's Immigrant
Jul 29, 2008
15,715
12,819
WC XC mechanics need to be fired if they can't swap a wheel in under 30 seconds, particularly a front. Pidcock's race ruined by a shoddy mechanic being slow and putting a mud front wheel on after a puncture. So he had to stop a second time for it to be swapped back to a normal front wheel. Still finished only a dozen seconds being the winner.
 

jstuhlman

bagpipe wanker
Dec 3, 2009
16,551
12,788
Cackalacka du Nord
WC XC mechanics need to be fired if they can't swap a wheel in under 30 seconds, particularly a front. Pidcock's race ruined by a shoddy mechanic being slow and putting a mud front wheel on after a puncture. So he had to stop a second time for it to be swapped back to a normal front wheel. Still finished only a dozen seconds being the winner.
funny thing is, people have said that after many, many xc races over the past few years. those asshats get what they deserve.
 

jstuhlman

bagpipe wanker
Dec 3, 2009
16,551
12,788
Cackalacka du Nord
so based on vergier's comments on wyntv, sounds like they're not going to snowshoe next year? BOO HISS.

also i want to like loris, but wtf whining about how it's too flat/hard/physical. hahahaha. suck it.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,315
1,557
Warsaw :/
WC XC mechanics need to be fired if they can't swap a wheel in under 30 seconds, particularly a front. Pidcock's race ruined by a shoddy mechanic being slow and putting a mud front wheel on after a puncture. So he had to stop a second time for it to be swapped back to a normal front wheel. Still finished only a dozen seconds being the winner.
Is this a one time error or one that happens often? Since you know people make mistakes. It's just mistakes like this are visible. Not saying it isn't dumb on the mechanic but I wonder what caused this to happen and it's it's 100% on the mechanic.
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
4,145
351
Roanoke, VA
Just imagine if XC racers still had to carry all their own tools and work on their own bikes… Lil tommycock would have to fix his own dang flat!

I love(parts of) all the free Suntour forks they’ve sent me over the years, but their “qr through axle system” is soooo bad. That second wheelswap was performed by the Suntour tech on hand, and poor fella was fighting with the dumb expanding collet just as hard as i do in my basement.
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
85,173
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media blackout
WC XC mechanics need to be fired if they can't swap a wheel in under 30 seconds, particularly a front. Pidcock's race ruined by a shoddy mechanic being slow and putting a mud front wheel on after a puncture. So he had to stop a second time for it to be swapped back to a normal front wheel. Still finished only a dozen seconds being the winner.
Is this a one time error or one that happens often? Since you know people make mistakes. It's just mistakes like this are visible. Not saying it isn't dumb on the mechanic but I wonder what caused this to happen and it's it's 100% on the mechanic.

probably a mechanic from his road team :busted:
 

fwp

Monkey
Jun 5, 2013
410
400
Nascar pit stops take less than 10 seconds for all four tires. I would have to guess they get paid a bit better though.
 

Gary

"S" is for "neo-luddite"
Aug 27, 2002
7,431
5,346
UK
Astbury identified as cherokee long before identifying as something you're clearly not was fashionable..

Saw the cult play here in 85 on the Love tour. Good gig.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
53,953
19,693
Sleazattle
so based on vergier's comments on wyntv, sounds like they're not going to snowshoe next year? BOO HISS.

also i want to like loris, but wtf whining about how it's too flat/hard/physical. hahahaha. suck it.
Seemed to brme bitching about the two race format which was apparently a lot harder at the shoe, and perhaps why two yoots and a squatch were on the top of the box.
 

ianjenn

Turbo Monkey
Sep 12, 2006
2,997
702
SLO
Astbury identified as cherokee long before identifying as something you're clearly not was fashionable..

Saw the cult play here in 85 on the Love tour. Good gig.
HAHA, I didn't know that my kid is about 5% Indian (NA) even though he looks like a young Billy Idol. Keep telling my wife to take the blood test at the local casino and see if she qualifies. Here Mom for sure would. They pay well......
 

aaronjb

Turbo Monkey
Jul 22, 2010
1,105
659
Just imagine if XC racers still had to carry all their own tools and work on their own bikes… Lil tommycock would have to fix his own dang flat!

I love(parts of) all the free Suntour forks they’ve sent me over the years, but their “qr through axle system” is soooo bad. That second wheelswap was performed by the Suntour tech on hand, and poor fella was fighting with the dumb expanding collet just as hard as i do in my basement.
Rune Hoydahl once lost a WC overall because of a double flat in a race.


A return to rider-supported racing went out the window when XC races stopped being endurance races and became a quick sequence of middle-distance intervals.
 

SylentK

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2004
2,283
851
coloRADo
14 means a lot less when you start at 6.
Well I'm pretty sure there's no lift that takes you up to 14. Usually it's around 10, like tree-line - -ish. If you're lucky.

I'd have to look at maps but the biggest lift mtb parks are around 3000' in vert drop. And thanks to the USFS, you get to do a lot of sections where you just cut across the mountain (you know, because of erosion or some stuff), so not that steep. But adds to total milage.

It is funny to hear about people complaining about the altitude, tho. Heck even I do. "I can't believe I'm out of breath just taking our bags up the stairs" :D
 

SylentK

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2004
2,283
851
coloRADo
Yeah, wow, good find. "I get high like Colorado" Milky Chance song just popped into my head.

Thing is, I'm not sure the lift takes you that high. Just because you are still in bounds at 14k doesn't mean the lift took you there. Plenty of hiking to get you higher. Been there. It's worth it for sure on said pow pow days. Or even days after the storm these hike to places will still have the stash.

And places like Breck, it takes time for them to avalanche blast. So sometimes you can't even get to the good stuff until they blast. No matter how much "first chair" you get. I learned that the hard way. Way more blasting going on in Horseshoe bowl, Breck than any bowl in Vail. That's for sure, for example.

I have a particular buddy who always wants to hike up higher. And most of us are like, "Can we just meet you at the bar?" :D
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
9,642
1,210
Nilbog
In Breck we start at 10. The 14ers around us are minor. So while in Zermat I figured I'd jog up the Matterhorn in flip flops after hearing it's a 14er. Then the clouds lifted and I got a look at it...
I don't know why you turned around? I spent some time in Zermat last year it's surprisingly 'not bike' friendly in a way. I could have bought a pretty sweet watch though...
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
Yeah, wow, good find. "I get high like Colorado" Milky Chance song just popped into my head.

Thing is, I'm not sure the lift takes you that high. Just because you are still in bounds at 14k doesn't mean the lift took you there. Plenty of hiking to get you higher. Been there. It's worth it for sure on said pow pow days. Or even days after the storm these hike to places will still have the stash.

And places like Breck, it takes time for them to avalanche blast. So sometimes you can't even get to the good stuff until they blast. No matter how much "first chair" you get. I learned that the hard way. Way more blasting going on in Horseshoe bowl, Breck than any bowl in Vail. That's for sure, for example.

I have a particular buddy who always wants to hike up higher. And most of us are like, "Can we just meet you at the bar?" :D
good call

 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
85,173
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That very well could have been at about the same time.

Also, remember Super D?
Xc was added to the Olympics in 96, so the format was likely shortened as a result of that (and the subsequent rules amalgamation between the UCI and Olympic committee), which likely led to the eventual addition of xcm.

Super D? Aka the precursor to enduro?

Remember xce?
 

aaronjb

Turbo Monkey
Jul 22, 2010
1,105
659
Yeah, wow, good find. "I get high like Colorado" Milky Chance song just popped into my head.

Thing is, I'm not sure the lift takes you that high. Just because you are still in bounds at 14k doesn't mean the lift took you there. Plenty of hiking to get you higher. Been there. It's worth it for sure on said pow pow days. Or even days after the storm these hike to places will still have the stash.

And places like Breck, it takes time for them to avalanche blast. So sometimes you can't even get to the good stuff until they blast. No matter how much "first chair" you get. I learned that the hard way. Way more blasting going on in Horseshoe bowl, Breck than any bowl in Vail. That's for sure, for example.

I have a particular buddy who always wants to hike up higher. And most of us are like, "Can we just meet you at the bar?" :D
Here in the Northeast all of our skiing is now done in a roughly three-week span on "frozen granular".

On the flipside, bike parks may be able to stay open 9 months a year soon.
 

aaronjb

Turbo Monkey
Jul 22, 2010
1,105
659
Xc was added to the Olympics in 96, so the format was likely shortened as a result of that (and the subsequent rules amalgamation between the UCI and Olympic committee), which likely led to the eventual addition of xcm.

Super D? Aka the precursor to enduro?

Remember xce?
Oh yeah! I don't really remember XCE, but Brian Lopes still posts about it, so there's that.

Also: https://mpora.com/mountainbiking/tragedy-meribel-dutch-mountain-biker-killed-world-cup-annefleur/