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I broke all the rules, but somehow still became mo
Sep 6, 2001
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Livin it up in the O.C.
I blame strava for this bullshit. We used to ride as a group... 60 riders. We all stuck together.

Now? We ride in comparable groups based on our climbing and/or descending.

My "x" bike is so much faster on "this" trail. Like stated above.

I know that fast is fun. But I also used to have more riding buddies before strava became cool. I also know that rides used to be all day. Now it's "let's get to Kennedy Creek before the climbing cause I wanna set my new record".

Who ever thought that a stupid app would create a separation between you and your riding buddies?
Thank goodness, but I do not know a single soul who uses STRAVA. Ok, lemme re-phrase. I do not, nor have I ever ridden someone who does Strava.
 

Gary

my pronouns are hag/gis
Aug 27, 2002
8,519
6,426
UK
Pretty much every UK rider uses Strava.

It's not compulsory to be a dick about it.
 

DaveW

Space Monkey
Jul 2, 2001
11,630
3,135
The bunker at parliament
Speaking of laugh out loud fun. Get a 29er frame that can handle 27.5 2.8" tires/wheels. Like a Hightower, GG Trail Pistol, Niner. Now that is a good time. Honestly. And you still have your bulldozer 29er wheels to blaze fast times. Twice the amount of good times in one bike.
Yeah the Niner Rip9 170/150mm travel with 27+ is what I've been playing with since December, lots of fun!
Have been surprised at the agility, better than I was expecting.
Downside to them is if you doing aggressive high speed cornering of G-out's, the tyres get a bit squirmy under those loads. But for everything else for the average rider they are brilliant gripwise.
Tyre pressure is way more of a fine line between too much and too little so you need to keep a closer eye on pressures.....I was a bit slack and my back rim is starting to look pretty beaten up
 

saruti

Turbo Monkey
Oct 29, 2006
1,173
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I use STRAVA. and I ride a sunday 26er.
29 inch wheels are faster... when you go strait line.
I dont think it is faster in technical trails. real downhill supposed to be technical. not bike park...
if the WC will get to be all bike park, it will lose me and more people.
this is why enduro have so many fans, because it is real bike trails. tech and steep. (well, most of it)
 

trib

not worthy of a Rux.
Jun 22, 2009
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I use STRAVA. and I ride a sunday 26er.
29 inch wheels are faster... when you go strait line.
I dont think it is faster in technical trails. real downhill supposed to be technical. not bike park...
if the WC will get to be all bike park, it will lose me and more people.
this is why enduro have so many fans, because it is real bike trails. tech and steep. (well, most of it)
You know that a bunch of rider don't use 29" wheels in enduro as well right?
 

6thElement

Schrodinger's Immigrant
Jul 29, 2008
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Electric_City

Torture wrench
Apr 14, 2007
2,057
789
As far as strava- Every one of you and every one of my buddy's claim that you're faster on a new bike you bought. How do you know? Strava. Don't deny it or claim that you don’t use it. My favorite is "I wasn't trying to go fast or anything, but I beat my old time."

New word. Stravaphobic- someone who denies using strava. A closet strava addict. One who uses it from walking the dog to the rail-trail to an enduro race "just to track my distance", but is always trying to get KOM.
 
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Jeremy R

<b>x</b>
Nov 15, 2001
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behind you with a snap pop
Strava is great for mentally stable people. I use it and enjoy it. I like beating my own times, and learning new routes to take in Pisgah. It is not meant to be taken seriously and should not be used by irrational people or people too mentally fragile to see so many people faster than them at pretend racing. It works kinda like tequila though in that is an asshole booster. If you are a little bit of an asshole, after a couple shots of strava, you may rip off your shirt and reach a level of flaming gaping asshole known as Lopes. Proceed with caution.
 

atrokz

Turbo Monkey
Mar 14, 2002
1,552
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teedotohdot
Several teams back on 27.5
Several riders back on 27.5, some after testing found they were actually faster on 27.5. Brendan was quicker, Danny says 29 was quicker in testing but didn't feel comfortable and went back to 27.5 (and won his first race back on them).

Looks like the hype is dying out, and teams are finding limits to marketing's input into technical decisions... Racing is the tell all and most honest way to see what works, and it looks like the hype is exposed for the most part as hype.

All the chatter here is mostly correct, in that some people will benefit and some simply wont. Myriam Nicole back on 27.5 for good she says, clearly it's not a faster wheelsize full stop, it's only quicker if you can work it.

Maybe Rob and Claudio can calm down about it now.
 
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Electric_City

Torture wrench
Apr 14, 2007
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ARTICLE 1.3.007 “Bicycles and their accessories shall be of a type that is sold for use by anyone practising cycling as a sport. Any equipment in development phase and not yet available for sale (prototype) must be subject of an authorization request to the UCI Equipment Unit before its use. Authorization will be granted only for equipment which is in the final stage of development and for which commercialization will take place no later than 12 months after the first use in competition. The manufacturer may request a single prolongation of the prototype status if justified by relevant reasons. The UCI Equipment Unit will pay particular attention to safety of the equipment which will be submitted to it for authorization. The use of equipment designed especially for the attainment of a particular performance (record or other) shall be not authorised.” The bicycle must be accessible to all participants. All the components of the bicycle must be available commercially (i.e. available on the market or sold directly by the manufacturer) at the latest twelve months after their first use in competition. To implement this twelve-month period, the manufacturer must publicly announce that the product in question is being used in competition and when it will be available for sale. In all cases the product must be in a final stage of development, very similar to the product that will be marketed. Thus, it is not allowed to use equipment in competition that is not either available on the market or authorized by the UCI Equipment Unit and previously communicated by the manufacturer (with a twelve months period for the marketing). The use of equipment specially designed for a particular athlete, event or performance are prohibited. "Specially designed" means a bicycle with a technical added value when compared with other equipment. No minimum production quantity or minimum price is defined for either bicycles or any component parts.
How did Honda race back in the mid 2000's?
 

jackalope

Mental acuity - 1%
Jan 9, 2004
7,705
6,111
in a single wide, cooking meth...
Several teams back on 27.5
Several riders back on 27.5, some after testing found they were actually faster on 27.5. Brendan was quicker, Danny says 29 was quicker in testing but didn't feel comfortable and went back to 27.5 (and won his first race back on them).

Looks like the hype is dying out, and teams are finding limits to marketing's input into technical decisions... Racing is the tell all and most honest way to see what works, and it looks like the hype is exposed for the most part as hype.

All the chatter here is mostly correct, in that some people will benefit and some simply wont. Myriam Nicole back on 27.5 for good she says, clearly it's not a faster wheelsize full stop, it's only quicker if you can work it.

Maybe Rob and Claudio can calm down about it now.
 

Sandro

Terrified of Cucumbers
Nov 12, 2006
3,228
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The old world
http://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Maybe-26-Aint-Dead-Is-Laurie-Greenland-Being-Serious,1853

There are two important take-aways from Laurie Greenland's audio below: selfies get more views than sick whips on social media and he's claiming that he tested a 26-inch-wheeled Mondraker Summum against a 27.5 version last week in Austria and was faster on the 26. He's not racing 26 at Andorra due to lack of wheels and tires, but seems to wish he could.
 

slimshady

¡Mira, una ardilla!
http://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Maybe-26-Aint-Dead-Is-Laurie-Greenland-Being-Serious,1853

There are two important take-aways from Laurie Greenland's audio below: selfies get more views than sick whips on social media and he's claiming that he tested a 26-inch-wheeled Mondraker Summum against a 27.5 version last week in Austria and was faster on the 26. He's not racing 26 at Andorra due to lack of wheels and tires, but seems to wish he could.
Tell him to come to Argentina to shop for rims and tires. We have plenty of them, brand new and in 26".
 

jackalope

Mental acuity - 1%
Jan 9, 2004
7,705
6,111
in a single wide, cooking meth...

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
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5,224
Australia
http://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Maybe-26-Aint-Dead-Is-Laurie-Greenland-Being-Serious,1853

There are two important take-aways from Laurie Greenland's audio below: selfies get more views than sick whips on social media and he's claiming that he tested a 26-inch-wheeled Mondraker Summum against a 27.5 version last week in Austria and was faster on the 26. He's not racing 26 at Andorra due to lack of wheels and tires, but seems to wish he could.
Hahahahah.... Cmon they jumped the gun on this one. Wait till we've all converted our 27.5s to 29ers before telling us that 26" was actually faster.