Whats the difference with the new damper. Bigger body, less pressure difference, less friction. Seem to work with the few people ive seen on them.
40 Grip x2 damper
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Hella shimz!
I think the IFP spring is softer as well.
I think the IFP spring is softer as well.
well,
i can tell you the grip 2 had hella damping,
and the grip 2vvc had none
presumably this damper will have some....
i can tell you the grip 2 had hella damping,
and the grip 2vvc had none
presumably this damper will have some....
@HAB stated there was considerably more compression damping available in the 38 version he's been testing on the latest Bikes and Big Ideas podcast. I have a damper incoming this week, will update. My new Altitude came with the '24 Grip 2 which is still a VVC compression circuit but with supposedly increased compression damping force and so far that appears to be true, but I need to pull some tokens from air spring before I can decide if it's enough.
Goldilocks just right
23 shimz, it's gotta be siiiiiick! 
The section of the podcast where they interview the product performance manager Sergio who came over from moto has some cool commentary on the approach they took to the Grip X2 -
www.vitalmtb.com
VITAL PODCAST - Grip Damper Breakdown With FOX's Engineers
After years of mostly positive reviews intertwined with some shortcomings, FOX has ditched its Grip2 and FIT4 dampers for model year 2025 forks. In their place are three new dampers that seek to offer a heightened level of discipline-focused performance and features. We joined FOX for a few days...
I guess when kashima stanchions start to loose market share you up the volume of kashima with lowers to match!! Like a drug tolerance, gotta up the dose...(Not a fan of New lowers)
Well being they are now not trying to push flow through a pencil, it may work better ..but then again fox have shown us they can mess that up too...
Well being they are now not trying to push flow through a pencil, it may work better ..but then again fox have shown us they can mess that up too...
Look crud the lowers. Black and kashima was peak looking. The people i know on the new fork in DH have upped their performance right away. Also a junior Aus girl in EWC had a step up too when she got the new fork.
Ill have a damper as soon as i can. Black fork with black stanchions, soon with the black decals they did for a limited run.
“once you go black you never go back”?
I‘ve got a few days on the new 40 and I think it is an improvement over the old one. I can run a fair bit more compression than before with less harshness.
VITAL PODCAST - Grip Damper Breakdown With FOX's Engineers
After years of mostly positive reviews intertwined with some shortcomings, FOX has ditched its Grip2 and FIT4 dampers for model year 2025 forks. In their place are three new dampers that seek to offer a heightened level of discipline-focused performance and features. We joined FOX for a few days...
IDK, this is pretty much saying they were just designing fuck-all dampers previously and had no fucking clue what they were doing...which is pretty much true...but jesus christ, we are constantly scraping the bottom of the barrel in this industry. New and improved: It might actually work this time! These companies deserve a few punches in the face.
Why the fuck is it so bad all the time.
Why the fuck is it so bad all the time.
Lol you are implying that maxxed out the grip 2 vvc made any damping......
Fox is so damn annoying. If this new damper is everything everyone is making it out to be (as in it actually works well), then Fox should be sticking with it for the next decade. But they won't because the exclusivity or novelty will wear off and as soon as sales level off or start dipping, they'll come up with some other trendy thing to renew that novelty.
While I haven't bought anything from Craig in a few years since I've been happy with Ohlins, I still love the fact his fork cartridge is still basically the same thing he had in the DHF in the late 90s. He's just added some upgrades along the way to improve them.
While I haven't bought anything from Craig in a few years since I've been happy with Ohlins, I still love the fact his fork cartridge is still basically the same thing he had in the DHF in the late 90s. He's just added some upgrades along the way to improve them.
I like it more than my other 40s.
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Publishing damping curves to the MTB community is like like marketing chassis rigidity information to crossover SUV buyers.
Giving adjustment authority to the average user is just providing them opportunities to dial in garbage settings. No damping and placebo dials are the path to success, you just aren't the target audience.
Did anyone decide to pick one up?
I'm debating getting the X2 to replace my Grip 1. Currently feels like I can run the damper fairly open and there's some level of comfort but the fork crashes into holes and braking bumps or run it fairly closed and it feels harsh but a lot more supportive.
I'm debating getting the X2 to replace my Grip 1. Currently feels like I can run the damper fairly open and there's some level of comfort but the fork crashes into holes and braking bumps or run it fairly closed and it feels harsh but a lot more supportive.
I have one going into a 38, will report findings soon.
Where did you source it from? Trying to get one for a 38 myself.
Dirt Merchant - https://www.dirtmerchantbicycles.com/collections/forks/products/2025-fox-grip-x2-and-grip-x-damper-upgrade-kits?variant=40551434223674
* looks like they're sold out
Lost Co is sold out, but they seem to be getting them (I had signed up for notifications of new stock and have received emails when shipments show up) - https://thelostco.com/collections/fox-grip-x2-and-grip-x-fork-damper-upgrade-kits/products/2025-fox-38-grip-x2-damper-upgrade-kit
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Now use 4wt oil, what would I do with all my 5wt!?
Tbh looks like the 5w teflon is 16 or 17cst @40 and 5cst @100
And the 4w is 16cst @ 40 and 5cst at 100
So they are as close as it gets
And the 4w is 16cst @ 40 and 5cst at 100
So they are as close as it gets
Oh thanks william
How else do you explain going from an rc2 that would work for a joe or pro
To a grip 2 that kinda worked to a grip 2 vvc that couldnt possibly generate any damping literally like 1/4th of an appropriate setting on an rc2 when you max the hsc and lsc on the grip 2 vvc?
Then they offered an "e bike tune"
If you are sane you would assume it would have more compression damping to deal with the heavier e bike chassis. Well guess what it was a lighter stack with a crossover, so about zero damping ever! So "e bikes can ride longer with more comfort"
I think the grip 2 vvc was targeted towards the 12-16yr old dominant demo of racing. Spoilt rich kids who weigh practically nothing, so need no dampening, but need the latest/greatest. And parents happy to pay because thats how contemporary family love is generated.
And somehow Autocue shite rap music and crappy bangas are incorporated in it all too.
Wholesome fun
Fox and RS should be cut no slack at all for the absolute crap they've been putting out. It's not like science/industry doesn't know how to build shock absorbers that work. MTB is a continual "cycle" of "yeah, this shit is good enough, they won't actually care that it doesn't really work". If they were making shit like this for motorcycles people would be kicking them in the face.
Pretty easily.
Fox took a good damper, and replaced it with a mediocre damper because some dumbfuck marketing wanks told them they needed something new. It wasn't the first time it'll happen in this industry and it wont be the last.
Don't go putting that shit on anybody but Fox.