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40 vs. BoXXer WC

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by Bicyclist, Sep 20, 2005.

  1. Bicyclist

    Bicyclist Turbo Monkey

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    I want to get either the new 40 RC2 or the new BoXXer WC. I'm light (about 130), so the BoXXer would offer easy air adjustability, and it's lighter. However, I may want to have a 7" fork, so the Fox would be better in that respect. It's also stiffer and probably has less maintainance. The fork will be going on a Demo 8. Has anyone ridden a Demo with a 40? I don't think the new BoXXer is available, but if anyone has ridden it, could you post any impressions at all?

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    I actually rode the new boxxer (very briefly) last week. It is definetly light weight, and the air spring feels really nice. Didn't really get much mroe time on it then that, but it certainly does not feel like an old school air fork. Feels like a coil fork with a sort of silky stiction feel to it, hard to explain.
     
  3. DHS

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    yea i did the parking lot test on a new boxxer. feels nice. as does the 40. both were on iron horse Sunday's the boxxer felt shorter anyway (axle to crown)
     
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    Ive ridden my friends demo with a 8" 40 on it and it felt nice and he had the HA pretty steepish like around 67 which felt spot on. I also touched a air boxxer and it felt silky smooth and will most likely be my next fork.
     
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    ive had a couple runs on a 40 and its a pretty smooth action but i like it because of the robust exterior. i prefer boxxers to the 40 because the tuning is by oil and shims and i like the fork to be as active as possible. cant wait to try the new air boxxer so i can have air allaround.
     
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    i have riden a demo nine with a 40 and all i can say is sick setup. The boxer is cheaper though, but the fox products have proven then selves 100 of times over again. Lot of racers also ride the boxxer and the 40 so it is a hard decision all i know is that you get more ajustments on the 40 like going down to 7 inches of travel nad the 40 mm stanctions gives you this feel of dependable strength
     
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    fox 40 dampeners just have a wider range of adjustment, boxxers while light and plush can't hold a candle to the rebound/compression adjustablility on the 40.

    can't wait to hear what the air boxxer weighs though...
     
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    5.9 lbs. according to RS.
     
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    I think I may go for the BoXXer if it has a shorter-feeling axle to crown. Plus it's got motion control and the Maxle, so it's more adjustable and easier to use. For my weight, stiffness isn't much of an issue and plenty of 180 lb plus guys ride them hard with no problems.
     
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    Hrm... after reading other threads it sounds like a lot of people are in the same boat as me. Fox needs to make an air 40 that's 6 pounds. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

    EDIT: And they could put TALAS on it to make it compete with the Boxxer Ride, too.
     
  11. Zark

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    Mark. The 40 feels amazing, I think you'd really like it. They come with really light springs so you probably won't need lighter ones ;)
     
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    I rode a Demo 8 with a Fox40 for one day at whistler, without adoubt a great setup for that bike,
    Its the best DH fork ive tried (comparing it to 03 Boxxer Race, 888RC, 66RC, 04 Boxer Team, Slider), super smooth, stiff and relatively light. If I had the money it would definately be at the top of my shopping list.

    I dunno if youd want to put this fork to 7" on the demo8 since it already has a steepish head angle setting at 67.2deg.


    yet i am very curious how the 06 boxxer WC compares
     
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    You have to understand I'm used to a 70 degree head angle and I like super-steep head angles for cornering, and I ride over the front of the bike. Ususally people will slide their rear tires cornering, but I'm the opposite. I slide the front and find a rock or berm to smack into and hook up again.
     
  14. dhmtbj

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    I'll take a 40 with the 36 damping system please...both those forks feel absolutely amazing. Leaps and bounds above every other fork I've ever ridden. Even my gf could tell the difference when she went for a spin on my imperial.
     
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    i love mi forty! it feels soooooooooo smooth compard to the boxxer, especialiy on drops, but u know, romaniuk can ride a boxxer pretty drn good.
     
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    Yeah but u haven't touched an air boxxer. and romaniuks boxxer felt like poo when i rode his bike around.
     
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    Shims in a Boxxer :think:
     
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    Yep. It's called the "Black Box high speed shim stack."

    It seems to me like Boxxers are more finnicky than 40s are. They always have to has the seals lubed, ect. From what I've seen if you don't take good care of them they feel like complete and utter crap.
     
  19. zmtber

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    i would have to say get the 40 with the specialize demo, fox forks are design for specialize bikes. plus i rode one on the demo and i can't even begin to imagine what the bike would feel like without it
     
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    No they're not. :rolleyes:
     
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    theres a reason hes on many ppls ignore lists mine included :nopity:
     
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    aren't they just the same thing?
     
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    There's so many things in this thread that don't make sense. I took a few looks at it and I'm not even going to try.
     
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    He means an air 40.
     
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    thanks :blah:
     
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    i have a new orange 224 frame w/ dhx and i really cant decide weather to get a 40 or an air boxxer. i wonder which would ride beter on this bike. i only weigh like 130 pounds.
     
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    I'm assuming you got an Orange because it's light, so you may as well stick with a BoXXer and keep it even lighter.
     
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    just get anyone of them, they are both great and light unless weight is really a big issue, then go for the boxxer. otherwise just for the cheaper one. whatever you get, make sure you post a review of the bike soon. :thumb:
     
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    It'll be another few weeks, maybe more before I get the bike. I'll post a review when I do, though.
     
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    No comparison between 40 and 05 Boxxer WC. The 40 is way better.

    I'd like to see the 40 against the 06 Boxxer WC, but Boxxers usually take one eayer to mature.
     
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    I'm definately leaning towards the 40 right now.
     
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    im leaning heavily twards the boxxer for my 224 fight know but i still dont know.
     
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    yeah your right my information was mixed up, specialize just has deals with fox, like many other companys, nothing different
     
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    I think the Boxxer would suit the Orange really well and decrease the weight even more.
     
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    If you decide by 40, you better wait for '06 one. Porbably it will have a reinforced arch wich used to broke in '05 ones. Both have excellent perfomance and feelig, but I'd prefer the much more tested Boxxer (even air first trying)
     
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    iv only heard good things about the fox40
     
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    Have you heard about the snapping arches? That's been a big topic of discussion for a while. I'm still getting a 40 soon though. Now my only decision is whether to get the R or the RC2.
     
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    I think you will find the front of the demo like a noodle with a boxxer because the frame is so stiff.
     
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    :stosh: yeah, I'm sure at a buck-30 he's really going to need that extra (perceived) stiffness...

    For your weight I'd recommend the boxxer first and the 40 a close second. You're probably right on the line for the standared (ti) spring on the 40, I'm 160 and the stock spring is perfect. if you're smooth and prefer a lighter feeling fork, you might have to swap out the ti spring for the (heavier) steel spring.