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4gb flash players....anyone use?

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  1. oly

    oly skin cooker for the hive

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    Thinking of taking the step to a digital media plyer and ditching the trusty CD walkman. Flash memory seems like it would be better since I will want to use it in an active environment. I also dont need it to store all my Music as I have the bulk of my CD collection recorded on my laptop. Most my files are in the windows media format, and the rest in regular MP3. I dont use Itunes and Im not really a downloader, but do borrow CD's. Generally those get burnt for me, or I back them up onto a disk for safe keeping.

    So, looking today at circuitcity.com, I see that they have 2 different players with up to 4gb now. ( http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/catOid/-12952/N/20012898+20012952+552/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do ) I was expecting to look for just a 1gb player, but am now curious about this larger format.

    SanDisk Sansa 4GB m260 Digital Audio Player for 179.00
    4GB flash memory
    Holds up to 1000 songs
    Up to 19 hours playback
    FM tuner
    Voice recorder
    PlaysForSure compatible


    or,

    Apple 4GB Black iPod Nano with Color LCD for 250.00
    4GB flash drive
    Up to 14 hours of playback
    62% smaller than mini
    Color backlit LCD
    1,000 songs/25,000 photos
    Slideshows with music


    Anyone have any suggestions? The cheaper tag of the Scandisk is appealing, but do you get what you pay for? Or is the Apple just overpriced since they are percieved as the best.......
     

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  2. binary visions

    binary visions The voice of reason

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    Unless you're dying for a color display, why would you spend more money for an MP3 player that has a worse battery? Especially $70 more (please consider, that's a 40% increase in price over the Sandisk), when that's the only feature it offers over the Sandisk, and the Sandisk does offer an FM tuner and voice recorder, if you like that sort of thing.

    The battery life vs. price issue seals it for me...
     
  3. -dustin

    -dustin boring

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    also, if most of your stuff is .wma, might as well go with the SanDisk. it runs on a AAA, so you wouldn't have any problems with not being able to 'charge' it.
     
  4. skinny mike

    skinny mike Turbo Monkey

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    the sandisk looks like it will be considerably larger than the nano. im biased because i like ipods but go with the nano.
     
  5. binary visions

    binary visions The voice of reason

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  6. morethanjake543

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    After handling other sandisk players, I'm pretty sure the sandisk will be much thicker than the ipod.

    But as much as I wuggle my friend's nanos, I just wouldn't trust them to hold up to active use. I've seen websites testing the nano by running it over and noting how it still works, but it just feels so delicate. It's more a piece of jazz than it is an active item. Go with the sandisk simply because if you scratch it, you wont cry.
     
  7. -dustin

    -dustin boring

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    forgot the catpion
     
  8. kinghami3

    kinghami3 Future Turbo Monkey

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    iPod is WAY thinner.

    I am a biased Apple user, who will hopefully have a Shuffle after this upcoming holiday that so many people like to call Christmas. My roommate has the nano, and it is a piece of art. Feather weight and you can fit it into your change pocket. The controls are fast and responsive, easy to navigate, and the color screen is a great benefit. The SanDisk looks clunky (I've seen them in person too), and the controls look difficult to navigate with no method of scrolling. Just navigating through 4 Gb of music on that small screen looks like an irritating experience to say the least.

    On the other hand, the nano seems as though it would break much easier than the SanDisk (hence my preference for the Shuffle), and it scratches easily (only because the SanDisk doesn't glisten in the first place).

    Just go to Best Buy if you want to check both of them out.
     
  9. dfinn

    dfinn Turbo Monkey

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    I have the previous version of the SanDisk player, the 1G one. It's held up very well to the abuse I've given it, no problems with it at all. It's for sale though, I got a nano.
     
  10. binary visions

    binary visions The voice of reason

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    Yes, the iPod is thinner - whether or not that's a good thing is personal preference, I guess. Frankly, I'd rather have a stockier player than something tall and thin, given that I'd be keeping the thing in my pocket all the time and a thinner player is liable to break before a thicker one.

    Wasn't posting the image to be misleading, I was just posting a size reference since there are no dimensions listed on the Circuit City page...

    As I said earlier, though, you're paying $70 extra for something with fewer features, less battery life, and is arguably more fragile. I don't get it. Apple sure does make things look pretty, though... I used a Nano for a little while in Best Buy and it was a fine player from what I could tell. It's just too simple a device for me to get all worked up over a color screen or a slight ergonomic difference in the controls one way or another. It plays music. If one will do it for longer than another, and is going to be sturdier to boot, well, that's all I need to know. It's not a fashion statement for me.
     
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    Usability is the kicker though, and that's what Apple's good at.
     
  12. binary visions

    binary visions The voice of reason

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    Well, if the device is really unusable, then the designers did a poor job. However, I don't find Apple devices to be particularly intuitive, just well-designed. If you have to learn one layout, then you can just as easily learn another layout - and until I've got reason to believe the Sandisk is simply an abhorrent design (which the reviews don't seem to indicate), then you're not really gaining anything by going with one layout over another.
     
  13. oly

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    I'll provabley lean to the Scandisk for the points BV mentioned, thanks BV!
     
  14. dfinn

    dfinn Turbo Monkey

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    another thing to consider is batteries. not battery life but having to replace AAA batteries all the time. it's wasteful and it's expensive. You could buy rechargables but if you factor that into the cost then the price difference is much less. if you don't plan on buying rechargables then something like the SanDisk player will be much more expensive in the long run. How often are you going to listen to 17 hours worth of music straight?

    it's so easy to recharge the nano, you just plug the usb cable in.
     
  15. binary visions

    binary visions The voice of reason

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    This is very true, obviously a very valid reason to buy a device like the Nano.

    The flip side, of course, being that if you don't have access to a place to charge it, you can easily grab/obtain as many AAA batteries as you want.
     
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    If you have iTunes, the nano is what you want. The inegration of the two is seamless, and VERY easy to use. Plus all the points eveyone else mentioned.
     
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    Indeed, and that's what all the other players are lacking; not performance or storage or even size, user friendliness. It's always been Apple's forte.
     
  18. oly

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    Having a single AAA battery is a plus to me. Just like with my DIGI camera with AA batteries, if I'm stranded somewhere without the ability to plug into a wall socket then I can still have my tunes.. (for instance I just got back from china where just plugging into a wall wasnt an option....and I also had about 24 hours of travel including layovers). To me its not an issue of cost, but more of convienience. I already have a set of AA rechargables, I just need a set of AAA now. And when i cant get a charge, i can stop at a 7-11 in any old place for an emergency bailout.

    I stopped by 2 stores, Best Buy only had the 1gig but Circuit City had the 4gig and for only 179! Only downer was not having a floor display to check out, but from what ive read, its a pretty easy player to use.

    Im set on buying the Scandisk with the early $$ ii got for X-mas.
     
  19. narlus

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    what other players are you comparing the Apple too?

    i've found that i much prefer the system setup of the Rio Karma over my wife's iPod. there are a lot of neat things about it which the Apple doesn't do.

    the 'user friendliness' of the Apples are always touted...give someone an iPod (who has never used one before) and tell them to turn it off. wanna bet how long that will take?
     
  20. oly

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    Went with the scandisk. Loading music now.... It was cheap, and available. Just like i like em... haha.
     
  21. dfinn

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    Took me less than 5 seconds. You hold the play button, just like on my SanDisk.
     
  22. TreeSaw

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    I would lean more toward the SanDisk myself too because of the ease of charging (AAA batteries). I've been looking into MP3 players as well and the SanDisk and the Creative ones are both high up on my list. Enjoy and let us know what you end up getting!
     
  23. Total Heckler

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    My brother works for Apple. The nano is nice.
     
  24. jimmydean

    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    There was an article that stress tested the Nano and I was blown away ad how buff it was. They tossed it 40 feet in the air onto the sidewalk and the tunes were still playing. The screen busted when they ran over it with the car, but it still played.

    I am getting the Sandisk because the screen on all ipods gets trashed easy. I have seen them scratched beyond view in a matter of minutes if you put it in your pocket with even things like paper.

    Plus the iTunes thing for Linux sucks. The Sandisk works the same as a thumb drive for files and whatnot.
     
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    Nice! He could send me a Nano for x-mas and I would be happy to test it out for him ;)
     
  26. dfinn

    dfinn Turbo Monkey

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    There's several options for linux. I haven't gotten around to playing with them yet since I just got my nano but gtkpod looks like it does a fine job of transfering files to an ipod. You won't find anything as full featured as iTunes but if you are just looking to move songs onto the device there are definitely programs out there to handle that.
     
  27. narlus

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    and that's intuitive?
     
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    Id pay more for the apple because its better looking, thinner and tuckes away easier, has the color screen that is nice and the biggest thing, the awesome ipod interface that makes it so easy to navigate your music.
     
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    good luck figuring out how to turn it off
     
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    Update?

    Oly, now that you have some time with it, any pluses and minuses?
     
  31. McGRP01

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    Can't speak for the 4gb, but I have a 2gb Nano and love it! :thumb:
     
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    dfinn Turbo Monkey

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    One other thing I noticed that I wanted to add to this was that the random song playing absolutely sucked on my SanDisk player. It would repeat some songs more than others, some songs would never get played. My nano so far has been much better.
     
  33. SkaredShtles

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    Rechargable AAA batteries aren't very expensive...... :think:
     
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    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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    So do some of these players come with a slot in which you can use existing memory cards? Or is the memory built into the player? Seems like it'd be much more useful to have a player that simply accepted a standard compact flash card........
     
  35. binary visions

    binary visions The voice of reason

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    Compact flash is too big for these devices.

    A lot of 'em are accepting SD cards, though. Not these ones we've been discussing in this thread, but some of 'em do.
     
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    SS, some do, which is one of the reasons i went w/ a Rio Forge. they take Secure Digital, not CF (which would be too large), and prices continue to fall for memory. i bought the smallest internal memory (128MB) and bought a 512MB card.
     
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    doh, BV beat me to it.
     
  38. DamienC

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    About as intuitive as clicking the "Start" button to shut down Windows. :p

    I'm totally digging my Nano for running. I hardly know it's there when carried along in the arm band and no worries about jarring a hard drive.
     
  39. dfinn

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    ok smarty pants, how much are they? Probably about $20 for the very cheapest batteries and recharger out there? I haven't bought any since I was a kid with a R/C car.
     
  40. Ciaran

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    Not sure about the charger but I bought two AA rechargables for my wireless mouse last night for 6 bucks.