5" sc forks = no more???

Jeremy R · Aug 17, 2004

Mattoid said:
has anyone else noticed that both manitou and marzocchi have stopped producing 5" single crown forks? The 2005 z1s, flicks, and fireflys are all 150mm now. I know the nsmb.com marzocchi coverage states that there is a 130mm option on the z1s but when i called about ordering one they said "nope, only 150mm" What the heck? So anyone who doesnt wanna run a 6" sc will have to run a p.o.s DJ fork or a manitou stance... LAME

Does anyone agree that a 4-5in dj1 with HSCV internals would rock like nothing else? The entire DJ line uses ssv curently.

Am i the only rider that enjoys riding trails (DH) AND dj/park??

Zoke is gonna offer a Z1 with 130mm of travel.
They are probaly just producing the 150's first.
Kinda like how all the first 888's were 200 and the 170 came out later.

If I were you, I would look into the new AM1. Its adjustable from 110 to 130, and has Zokes top damping in it. Its got all the bells and whistles though, so it is gonna cost. But it would suit your trails and DJ needs.

kidwoo · Aug 17, 2004

Don't like fox?

buildyourown · Aug 17, 2004

I thought the new z1 was adjustable by switching the neg springs like the older z1 and z3 line?

grimm · Aug 17, 2004

Mattoid said:
has anyone else noticed that both manitou and marzocchi have stopped producing 5" single crown forks?

if thats the case, that sucks! :eviltongu i want the ability to run 5" on for example a 5" frame.. either way why remove the optional choice..

i do hope they will be able to supply 5" versions later on

Incubus · Aug 17, 2004

kidwoo said:
Don't like fox?

Fox really should make a 20mm axle version.

...they're not just for DH no-mo. :dead:

buildyourown · Aug 17, 2004

The NSMB article says they make the All Mountain and the z1 SL in a 130mm version. Are you saying that you called zokes and they told you something else?

BMXman · Aug 17, 2004

hmm..buy a '04 fork....D

Jm_ · Aug 17, 2004

I've noticed that manitou has stopped producing 5" travel shermans (adjustable between 110mm or 150mm).

I have also noticed that marzocchi is producing several 130mm forks for 2005. All-mountains, the 130mm Z1...etc

Fox is also producing a 5" travle 20mm fork for 2005

Zark · Aug 17, 2004

No 5" Z1 for '05... That blows goats! I hope this isn't true. 6" is great and all, but I don't need that much, but like having a through axle/extra beef.

manhattanprjkt83 · Aug 17, 2004

Incubus said:
Fox really should make a 20mm axle version.

...they're not just for DH no-mo.

You know its in the worx, my bet is they had the 36 and DH forks to come out right now and they didnt want to release all the suprises at once, i bet we see it in the winter, mid year thing...

macmx · Aug 17, 2004

5" fork are escential for mtb riding. We need them. I doubt they will ever dissaper completly. If they do however, I willl cry...

dw · Aug 17, 2004

I just counted 10 130mm forks available in the Answer 05 lineup.

Dave

OGRipper · Aug 17, 2004

There are a ton of 5" travel forks for '05.

From what I can tell the trend is to allow travel adjustment up or down from 125 or 130. All the major playas are offering forks with that option one way or another.

There are both QR and thru-axle options from the different manufacturers.

Unless you insist on something dedicated to 5" there are a lot of options, and since the 5-6" travel "all mountain" market is growing I don't think 5" forks will disappear.

Maybe Brian P can tell us about 'Zokes plans for the z1 (if he's still talking to us

), kind of surprising and sounds more like the 130 version isn't available yet, or maybe the person you talked to thought you were asking about travel adjustments or there was some other communication breakdown...?? Otherwise from what I can tell there is no 5" thru-axle 'Zoke fork but you could still get one of the all-mountain forks with a QR. Or get a manitou or fox. Or an RS pike but I didn't say that.

vitox · Aug 17, 2004

i know rockshox is not all that hot on RM but there is a certain fork called the pike with a real 20mm axle, and 3,5-5,5" adjustability.

Sir_Crackien · Aug 17, 2004

manitue has another line-up called slice that has 5" models. they are designed to be inexpensive and though

ioscope · Aug 17, 2004

black

SuspectDevice · Aug 17, 2004

5" was a bastard length anyway.
If i were king of my own fork-dom things would go down like this;
100mm air forks for trail riding and FS XC racing;
80mms of superlight air for xc race forks and heavier air 4x/dj forks;
and 150mm's with air/coil for light/heavy trail bikes.

170-220mm forks would exist only as dualcrowns, and the whole mtb world would use single sided springs and nitrogen charged shim-stack valved cartridges, that are rebuildable by the average tuner. All suspension forks worldwide would weigh between 4-6.5lbs and use the same seals. longer travel models would just use the same bushings as the lower travel models, stacked on each other.

Of course this would never happen as with most of my evil schemes

Jeremy R · Aug 18, 2004

SuspectDevice said:
5" was a bastard length anyway.
If i were king of my own fork-dom things would go down like this;
100mm air forks for trail riding and FS XC racing;
80mms of superlight air for xc race forks and heavier air 4x/dj forks;
and 150mm's with air/coil for light/heavy trail bikes.

170-220mm forks would exist only as dualcrowns, and the whole mtb world would use single sided springs and nitrogen charged shim-stack valved cartridges, that are rebuildable by the average tuner. All suspension forks worldwide would weigh between 4-6.5lbs and use the same seals. longer travel models would just use the same bushings as the lower travel models, stacked on each other.

Of course this would never happen as with most of my evil schemes

But then what would we talk about?
Then we could not have 15 page threads discussing the size of a steerer tube. And Gee Wally, without that it just wouldn't be the same around here.

dromond · Aug 18, 2004

Bah! 5" is a good length; especially when it can be easily lowered to 4" (and not just for climbing.) That way you can have your 4" trailbike and still rake it out a bit for when things get faster/steeper. I'm still waiting on someone making the 4"-5" adjustable fork that can be ridden hard in both settings and maintains the spring rate pretty closely.

Jm_ · Aug 18, 2004

dromond said:
Bah! 5" is a good length; especially when it can be easily lowered to 4" (and not just for climbing.) That way you can have your 4" trailbike and still rake it out a bit for when things get faster/steeper. I'm still waiting on someone making the 4"-5" adjustable fork that can be ridden hard in both settings and maintains the spring rate pretty closely.

I agree, there's a lot of climbs that i can just barely make on my 5" fork because of how tall it is, and when you really get to a steep section, it's hard to keep the front end from wandering, and at the least, it just seems to take a lot more energy(concentration) than if the fork was lower. 150mm would be nice for decents, but for some steep climbs it would just be rediculous to try and get up stuff. 4, 5, 6" talas is what I'm holding out for though

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