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5th Element vs. Pushed Vanilla RC (or other)

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by Discostu, Sep 6, 2005.

  1. Discostu

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    I'm getting a new (used) shock to replace the vanilla r on my 2001 Yeti AS-X. Right now its between a used Vanilla RC with the push full race kit (tuned to a rider same weight and riding style) and a used 5th element, both $225. I am mainly upgrading to improve the pedalling performance with the Yeti in the long travel mode (6"). I use the bike for trail riding/light FR with no drops above 6'. I have my Turner DHR for DH.

    Option 3: Buy a new DHX 5 for ~$360?

    Thanks for your help.
     
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  2. FlipSide

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    I can only encourage you to go with the Push upgrade. It improved the handling of my bike quite a lot.

    The time you'll spend setting up your 5th is time you could spend riding a perfectly tuned Pushed VanRC. :thumb:
     
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    I rode a Vanilla RC ProPedal on a Banshee Scream and was very impressed with its performance, and can only imagine a PUSH'd version would be a lot better.

    But if your goal is to improve the pedaling of the AS-X, the 5th E might be better because its platform is MUCH MORE aggressive.

    my only other thought is that $250 seems a lot of money for a used 5th E.
     
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    I would go with the 5th. While a "Pushed" Fox is a very plush shock, it doesn't have the adjustability of a 5th.
     
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  5. Discostu

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    If anyone here has a blown 7.875 x 2.25 Vanilla RC, I would happily buy that, and just get it sent off to push.... I don't think its worth sending in my Vanilla R.
     
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    Go with Push if you want service to back up the shock. Progressive will take care of you, eventually. They appear to only check their email bi-weekly, and you can wait on hold and listen to their crappy music interrupted by "your call is very important to us..." for 1/2 hr sometimes, all this for an at-best 2 week turnaround time (not including shipping to/ from you). It is supposed to be 24hrs for IH customers looking to get the proper tune for DW link bikes, but that's only if they look at the box when it comes in to see what the shock is there for.
    Push is dedicated to customer service, and will take care of any problems asap. They're small, and want your business. This may not last forever, but right now, their CS is tops. And on top of that, the magic they do to shocks rocks.
     
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    If you get a pushed dhx, it has comparable adjustability to a 5th. But really, if the shock is valved for you and your bike, there's not a lot of value in adjustability. Mass marketed shocks need it so they can adapt. Purpose built shocks don't need it nearly as much...
     
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    PUSH!!

    With a personally custom tuned shock, you don't need much adjustability - it's already spot on. I dropped my 5th for a PUSH shock and it blew the 5th out of the water. Just do it and don't think twice. Otherwise I'd get the DHX, which also behaves much nicer than the 5th.
     
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  9. Discostu

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    I actually said $225, but I too think thats a bit much. I've tried to talk the guy down with no luck, so I may just have to pass, especially considering its a 2002 model shock.
     
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    I have heard a lot of good things about PUSH...
     
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    Call Darren!
    You can now get the DHX PUSHed! Makes the best shock made...
    Even better!

    www.PushIndustries.com
     
  12. Kntr

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    Push it :D
     
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    pushed fox's are nice but it is still a vanilla rc. I love platform shocks and the progressive is a great shock.
     
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    what bike did the pushed rc come off of, the valveing could be set up for a different ratio... i dunno how much this would effect it though. personally id go for the DHX 5
     
  15. Discostu

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    I think i found a blown Vanilla RC i will just send to push for them to tune for me. Whats a fair price on a blown RC?
     
  16. bomberboy11

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    On a related note, does anybody know if PUSH does the full race package for the remote reservoir Fox Vanilla DH shocks (the ones that came on the '03-'04 Stab Primos)?
     
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    Just give them a call. Im sure they can help you.
    www.PushIndustries.com
     
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    Eh, Darren and James are both busy guys, don't really want to bother them with anything that won't be a sale. If that Vanilla DH is PUSH-able, does anybody know how that feels compared to a standard PUSH-ed Vanilla RC?
     
  19. Kntr

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    Awesome...... Do it.
     
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    go with the DHX the pro pedal ans strength and even the feel is so worht the money wont need a new one till it bracks which will be in a long time
     
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    A Pushed Fox is most definately NOT still a vanilla RC. Entirely new guts, not just a tweaked stack. Much greater performance. And it also makes the Fox a platform shock, so you're wrong there too.

    My vote is obviously for Push. Been running there stuff since they started. Love it. :thumb: