[trialsboy50]

I got an offer to trade a street frame for a Brodie Demon downhill frame. While I wont be riding 100% downhill, I plan to start, but mainly freeriding/urban stuff.

The frame has 7.6" of rear wheel travel from a Manitou 4 Way swinger.
Couple of Questions

1) Any opinons on this frame? Its brand new 2004.
2) If I were to get it, I for some reason am not a fan of dual crown forks, it may sound weird, but if at all possible, I was hoping to be able to throw on like a Z150 or one of the Manitou Stances possible and have 6-7" of travel. I'm only 135 pounds, so I feel that a single crown should hold up to my riding.

I was ideally looking for a 6-7" travel frame, but lack of funds made me really open to trades and just building a bike. I'm in no rush to build the bike, as I wont really ride it until March/April when its sunnier out.

Thanks
Byron

 

[FR4life.]

Get a 66. Problem solved.

-Chris

 

[trialsboy50]

FR4Life - I would love to, but those out of my price range haha. I was hoping to keep it around 400-450 or a used one.

But thanks for the response

 

[Tully]

Why not get a dual-crown? A Z150 is as heavy as a lot of dual-crowns, and I think 66's are pretty close. If the those two don't appeal to you due to weight and/or price, I bet you would like a Stance Flow.

 

[Tully]

On the other hand, I like the taller axle-to-crown of a dual-crown for downhill, but I'm sure others would disagree.

 

[The Kadvang]

On the other hand, I like the taller axle-to-crown of a dual-crown for downhill, but I'm sure others would disagree.

For the comparable travel, allmost all the long-travel single crowns are higher than their dual crown equivalent. My 6" Z150 is taller than a 7" boxxer and equal with a 7" Super T. The 66 is ginormous.

 

[trialsboy50]

Yea, it may be the ride height of the dual crown which I dont like. My friends Joker has a shiver, and Im just not a fan of it. Single crowns just seem easier. Weight is important, but price is more important. The Stance Flow seems like a good choice and maybe a Z150.

So ultimatley, having a SC fork wont like snap my headtube or anything crazy on this 8" dh monster?

Thjanks

 

[Tully]

For the comparable travel, allmost all the long-travel single crowns are higher than their dual crown equivalent. My 6" Z150 is taller than a 7" boxxer and equal with a 7" Super T. The 66 is ginormous.

My bad, I meant axle-to-crown of the Stance Flow. Isn't that one shorter than Marzocchi's forks?

 

[Tully]

So ultimatley, having a SC fork wont like snap my headtube or anything crazy on this 8" dh monster?

Never say never, but that's very unlikely.

 

[atrokz]

I've got a sherman slider + for sale. it's in great condition, has been used for a few months. it's about the lowest 170mm dc fork you can get. it's camo, and it's light.

04.

I'd be willing to let ot go for cheap. pm me

 

[The Kadvang]

My bad, I meant axle-to-crown of the Stance Flow. Isn't that one shorter than Marzocchi's forks?

Yeah. The Shermans/Stances are pretty damn short for their travel.

 

[Tully]

I'm debating getting a Stance Flow for my hardtail; I'd like something inexpensive and beefier than my Black that would also slacken the head tube angle a bit more.

 

[Kntr]

the 7" 66 is taller than the 8" 888. A lot of the long travel single crowns are very tall.

 

[Smelly]

Yeah. The Shermans/Stances are pretty damn short for their travel.

i think all the manitou's are short. the axle to crown on my Nixon, set at 145mm, is exactly the same as my old Psylo SL at 115mm

 

[Tully]

It sounds like a Stance Flow would be his best choice, because it's cheaper and lighter than dual-crowns, plus it sounds like he wants the lower height.

Let us know what you choose, and how you like it!

 

[The Kadvang]

i think all the manitou's are short. the axle to crown on my Nixon, set at 145mm, is exactly the same as my old Psylo SL at 115mm

i think its cuz all of their longer travel single crowns have the axel set up the lowers a little bit

 

[Kntr]

I like the All Mountain 1 by Zoke for a all around fork. Spendy though.

 

[Cash-Money]

what about the PIKE? i'm debating getting one of those, a stance flow, or a vanilla 130mm. is the Pike fairly tall or short for it's 140mm of travel?

 

[trialsboy50]

Thanks for the responses guys, the monkey who brought up the point of a DC ride height being less than comparable SC ride heights got my thinking and considering a dual crown. if i went dc, id probably go boxxer ride or manitou stance kingpin or sherman slider. any sugggestions in those price ranges(used also)?

this is somewhat offtoopic, but do you guys with big DH rigs and DC forks find any problems with shipping your bike somewhere and being able to use a normal bike box?

thanks

 

[trialsboy50]

one more questions:
manitous site for the stance flow gives 502/532 as ride heights. is the first one for a QR version and the second for the thru axel?

and... im pretty sure but just to check, manitou's thru axel system will work with any 20mm hub right? for some reason i thought it was special or something

 

[WheelieMan]

one more questions:
manitous site for the stance flow gives 502/532 as ride heights. is the first one for a QR version and the second for the thru axel?

and... im pretty sure but just to check, manitou's thru axel system will work with any 20mm hub right? for some reason i thought it was special or something

Those numbers are because of the adjustable travel. 502mm a2c height for 120mm travel, and 532mm for 150mm travel. And yes, 20mm manitou forks work with any 20mm through axle hub.

 

[Tully]

what about the PIKE? i'm debating getting one of those, a stance flow, or a vanilla 130mm.

If you can afford it, I'd go for a Fox 36. The TALAS is definitely my favorite 5" fork, and I can't imagine anything better than a 6"-travel version that's even stiffer yet.

Would it go on your Hardline?

 

[Tully]

The only problem with the 36 is that they start at $850, and the one with adjustable compression damping is about $1000 (at jensonusa.com).

 

[trialsboy50]

If you had to choose bwteen a Z150 or Manitou Stance flow? Similar in price, well the Flow is a bit cheaper, but performance wise? Going on a Brodie Demon frame with 7.6" of travel

 

[Tully]

The Flow is actually way cheaper, but click here for a Z150 or here for a Z150 SL.

The Z150 is at least as tall as an average dual crown, and as heavy, but with an inch less travel, so I don't really see a benifit there. However, the Z150 SL is about a pound lighter, roughly the same weight as the Flow, so if the extra height and ~$220 don't bother you, I'd go for the Z150 SL.