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Discussion in 'Politics & World News' started by RenegadeRick, Jan 23, 2008.
I'm sure it was really just bad intelligence, right? Lie is such a strong word.
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I hate GWB as much as the next guy and blame him for all sorts of evils, but we do have to be honest when calling someone a liar.
Iraq did have WMDs, it is an absolutely fact. It's also a fact that UNMOVIC kept Iraq's WMDs to an insignificant level, but they did have them and were constantly trying to increase the amount.
Well, at least you can say that it's almost over. They should all be in jail but they're not. What can you do.
(I still think Cheney is pulling the strings behind this entire admistration and Bush is just a stooge put in power to let 'them' do what they really want)
just heard the interview on npr this morning (http://www.publicintegrity.org/default.aspx has more), and it smacked of a hit piece. one thing stood out: the Centre spoke factually correctly - while being purposefully misleading - about bushco speaking factually correctly, while being purposefully misleading.
f'rinstance: i'd like to see the 935 in table format just to reveal duplicate statements.
Except were still with the legacy of fvcktitude of biblical proportions to fix.
But then in fairness, we'd have to include all the lies, deceits, and criminal misdirections that this Admin also did not related to Iraq.
link to full "lies" here (curiously, only 532 statements were categorized as false statements...hmmm....)
lots of loose interpretation. the bulk of it falling well short of what i'd ironically call a "slam dunk"
532 isn't a slam dunk?
Michael Jordan says otherwise.
Only 532? Ok, I feel WAY better now. That's barely 100 a year, he was well bellow what I consider the average "lies per year" mark.
I'm guessing they would boil down to a handful of key statements:
Iraq has WMD
Iraq is not cooperating with UN inspectors
Iraq is allied with AlQaeda
Iraq did 9-11
Please keep in mind that these are not quotes, and not even true. This is just my interpretation of the tone and impression these 935 statements appear to be intended to give.
I'm just glad this only happened 935 times. 936 times would have been unacceptable.
Any quotes in there that begin with "the lord told me...?"
hey everyone look!!!!
Wait a minute......
uhhh.. I wouldnt mess with that squirrel's nuts!!
As much as GB lied, I have to blame all the legilators that agreed with his doctrin, including Kerry and the Clintons. Unlike ordinary citizens, these guys are the best educated, have other sources of intel, and know each others slimy ways. As much as I hate the neocon doctrin (which is what Bush is, a puppet for the worldly rich neocons such) I can't help feeling it's all just a show and they're all in on it.
I agree that they should've spoken out and loudly!
However, they probably knew that Bush was going to invade anyway and by keeping silent, they bought a few favors?
I know it sucks if that's how it all works in DC>
Condi was on the hot seat for her part in the lies yesterday.
Although, I suppose it might be better described as a heated massaging recliner, since absolutely nothing will come of her questioning by Wexler.
"Nobody wants to go to war." My ass.
How's about a RonPaultard update?!
Isn't he a Repub?
Then shouldn't you give us the update?
That's a negative Ghost Rider...
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Nothing new since this.
Didn't you get the memo?
n8's just bitter because GWB can't run for a 3rd term. He has left the Republican Party and jointed the Pity Party.