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a couple of observations after today's ride

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  1. jacksonpt

    jacksonpt Turbo Monkey

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    first - the shorter days suck.

    second - Panaracer Ciders are surprisingly good tires. Lots of bite, stiff, strong lugs hold well on off cambur roots and such. If they are even decent in wet condition, they will definitely beat out my Conti Verticals as an all-around tire. They are a bit heavier, but much more sturdy... and I bet they will prove to be more durable than the Contis as well, but only time will tell on that one.

    thrird - everyone needs a road bike. I don't care if it's boring as hell to you, it will make immediate and dramatic improvements in your mountain bike riding. OK, if you're an accomplished racer, this might not be the case... but for most of us, a road bike is a great training tool. I can't believe how much stronger I feel on the trail and how much better I am out of the saddle after a short time with my road bike. I was doing things in my middle ring/middle cog that I normally do in my granny/big cog. A HUUUUGE difference.
     

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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    nice!

    yeah, I wish everyday was 16 hours of light :)
     
  3. douglas

    douglas Chocolate Milk Doug

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    1) I agree :(

    2)I know a ton of people that really like fire xcs / and the cinders (per panaracer) are better. Did you get the aramids? 2.1 s are 650 grams, that doesnt seem too heavy to me

    3)so true, and most expert/pro riders I know or have meet ALL ride road
     
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    berkshire_rider Growler

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    :thumb: I have been on the fence about getting a road bike, and this post may have swayed me over the top. I have been thinking about getting one and doing at least 1 road ride a week to help with training / spinning / conditioning.

    Yeah the shorter days suck. It's damn dark by 8:00pm now. :mumble:
     
  5. MMcG

    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    yep road bikes are good.

    And thanks for the short Cinder review, and yes it sucks that it is getting dark by 8:00 pm now.
     
  6. hooples3

    hooples3 Fuggetaboutit!

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    I have considered getting a road bike.. Only #1 i am a big guy.. 240 lbs id feel like i was gonna break the thing. #2 NYC streets suck.... way too many potholes and bumps. I have my older hardtail with 1.5" slicks on it..I use it for the streets and for commuting.. thats enough of a road bike for me ... for now
     
  7. jacksonpt

    jacksonpt Turbo Monkey

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    Yea, I know how popular the Fire XCs are, I just wasn't expecting the Cinders to hold as well as they did on off cambur roots and such. The knobs are beefy enough that they don't flex as much (thus, they hold better) as the knobs on my old verticals.

    I got the 2.25 Kevlar beaded Cinders... just a hair under 800g if I remember correctly - that's about 1/4 heavier (each) than my Contis were. I call it a training tool :D
     
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    jacksonpt Turbo Monkey

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    I was really surprised. I've only got about 100 miles on my road bike - I do about 1 good ride (20-30 miles) per week... I'm seeing fast and significant improvements in my road riding, but I didn't know how much of it would translate to the dirt. I felt a lot of benefit from added leg strength, and was a lot more comfortable out of the saddle - more in control is probably the best way to put it - both of me (my body, how hard I pedaled, etc) and the bike.
     
  9. MMcG

    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    sounds like you need a Surly! :thumb:
     
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    jacksonpt Turbo Monkey

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    Just get a solid frame and have a custom wheelset built up... perahps use parts from the wheelset on a tandem bike.

    The guy I rode with last night is 6'7" 315lbs - and he rides a Cannondale R700. Stock wheels are OK for him, but he's having a custom wheelset built up soon.
     
  11. I Are Baboon

    I Are Baboon Run, Forrest, Run!

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    If anyone thinks road riding is broing, then they are doing it wrong. :p
     
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    jacksonpt Turbo Monkey

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    Yea, I was suprised at how much I enjoy road riding. Kind of funny... for as similar as mtn biking and road riding are, they are also TOTALLY difference expereinces.
     
  13. hooples3

    hooples3 Fuggetaboutit!

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    i like the whole idea of road riding... but seriously.. most of you are in an area where the roads are nice and you have clean air, and probably awesome views. If I lived upstate.. id have a road bike already. im in the city... no where near as nice. if I have to drive some where to ride in a nice area id rather take my mountain bike.
    I do wish i had a true road bike for the century i am doing sept 11th
     
  14. I Are Baboon

    I Are Baboon Run, Forrest, Run!

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    Well there is a difference between not enjoying road riding and thinking it's boring. You are describing the prior. We do have nice country roads to ride on.
     
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    douglas Chocolate Milk Doug

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    One of my favorites rides of the year, was my 1st real group (club) ride.......it was really hard to not look like a idiot being I was smiling the whole time
     
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    stosh Darth Bailer

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    I feel funny on a road bike... I've ridden a couple different ones over the summer and they all make me feel weird when I ride them.
     
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    jacksonpt Turbo Monkey

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    Check out the XC forum for a more detailed review, if you're interested.
     
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    jacksonpt Turbo Monkey

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    weird how... like you suddenly want to wear lycra and shave your legs... or not quite fitting right?
     
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    stosh Darth Bailer

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    They all feel short and I hate bending my back.
     
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    jacksonpt Turbo Monkey

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    get a recumbent
     
  21. robdamanii

    robdamanii OMG! <3 Tom Brady!

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    I've been debating a roadie for tooling around in Wine Country up there in NY, and Beth is looking at a cyclocross to spend time on rail trails and roads.

    I enjoy the road ride when I test the bikes, but I hesitate to buy one when I think "well, am I going to go out and spin, then turn around and go the exact same route to get back?" Seems a little less than stimulating to me, but I gess I haven't ridden it enough to figure out if that's the case.

    And I want to see Stosh shave his legs.
     
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    hooples3 Fuggetaboutit!

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    kinda like when you climb the rope in gym class
     
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    stosh Darth Bailer

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    I actully like just riding my HT with some slicks. Either that or I'll get a Scott Cross bike.
     
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    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    Why would you need to turn around and come back the same way? Just map out some good loops with lots of right turns to get ya back home. :cool:
     
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    jacksonpt Turbo Monkey

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    Road riding is weird, at least for me... it's not about the route, it's about me and the bike and the 100' of pavement I'm on at that moment. When you ride dirt, you want a good loop with changing terrain. On the road, you (or at least I) don't think about that stuff. It's not about the route - it's about the rhythm, it's about the cadence, it's... I dunno - it's just different. Dirt riding is all about sweat and adrenalin - road riding is more spiritual. It sounds corny, but take my word for it. Borrow a bike from a buddy and do 20 or 30 miles and see if you feel it.
     
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    robdamanii OMG! <3 Tom Brady!

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    A set of 4 rights up in Wine Country is about 60 miles, that's why. :cool:

    That's what I wonder, if it's just this bizarre impression I have of road riding that I don't get. I guess once you actually do it, you really get the feel for it.
     
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    wine contry??? Are you in the Finger Lakes area? 60miles wouldn't be too bad up there.
     
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    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    A road bike ride through the Finger Lakes Wine Country sounds amazing! You and Beth should definitely do it!
     
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    I Are Baboon Run, Forrest, Run!

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    I still think a road ride to that brewery in Granby would be amazing. :) We got a second vote of "Two thumbs up" on that place from one of MBC's friends.
     
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    robdamanii OMG! <3 Tom Brady!

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    Are you moving to Seneca Falls? Or just visiting there?
     
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    MMcG Ride till you puke!

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    Let's do it then!! :dancing:
     
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    robdamanii OMG! <3 Tom Brady!

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    Moving there to go to school.

    I'll have all that space to road ride, and no really decent trails to ride. Bummer.

    And since I'll be in a house, there would be sufficient room for monkeys to crash if they came to road ride or something.
     
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    Not right in Seneca Falls, but in the general area there are plenty of trails to ride. It's not all that far from where I am, I'll have to show you some stuff. You gonna have a car?
     
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    I'm seriously looking at a Kona Jake Cross bike because I love Kona and I really want to get out and spinning, not even just to improve my riding, but because it's so beautiful out here...plus, I really love the speed! :D
     
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    I've done some road rides around a couple of the finger lakes !!! :thumb:

    is kind of intersting when you start you can see the other side only, doesn't look that far across . 70 miles later your finally there by road !

    Fun!
     
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    bluebug32 Asshat

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    Where are the trails? We both went to school in Ithaca and we've been to Shindigan Hollow (sp?) and that's about it. It's so damn hilly up there!

    I'm really looking forward to getting out on some of the roads by the lake when I come to visit Rob :thumb: and, yeah, he'll have a car.
     
  39. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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    I've done road rides/bike path rides/etc. quite a number of times over the last ~20 years of riding and while road riding isn't terrible, for me it is boring. And anytime I'm riding road I'd like it 20x more if I was spending that time on singletrack instead.

    The only time I've found a road/path ride to be "fun" was when we had a group of people doing a bar-bikeathon. :D

    Road riding does seem to be pretty good exercise, though.

    Of course, YMMV.
     
  40. robdamanii

    robdamanii OMG! <3 Tom Brady!

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    You bet I'll have a car.

    I'm assuming we're talking MTB trails, yes?

    And for god's sake don't say shindigin hollow...