[N8 v2.0]

Apparently, hallucinogens are absinthe...





http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080429/sc_livescience/absinthesmindalteringmysterysolved

"Today it seems a substantial minority of consumers want these myths to be true, even if there is no empirical evidence that they are," said researcher Dirk Lachenmeier, a chemist with the Chemical and Veterinary Investigation Laboratory of Karlsruhe in Germany.

Lachenmeier and his colleagues analyzed 13 samples of absinthe from old, sealed bottles in France, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands and the United States dated back to the early 1900s before the ban. After uncorking the bottles, they found relatively small concentrations of thujone in that absinthe, about the same as those in modern varieties.

Laboratory tests found no other compound that could explain absinthe's effects. "All things considered, nothing besides ethanol was found in the absinthes that was able to explain the syndrome of absinthism," Lachenmeier said. (Ethanol is a word for common drinking alcohol.)

The scientists are set to detail their findings in the May 14 issue of the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry.

 

[LordOpie]

I thought it was wormwood that was the drug in the drink?

And if they find nothing in the beverage that creates such effects, well, it's probably that drinkers were smoking opium at the time

 

[Arkayne]

I thought it was a chemical derived from wormwood that was in the drink. I saw that stuff in the Caribbean during my honeymoon and was tempted to bring some back for 'testing' purposes. I dig the green color.

 

[bitingback]

http://www.eabsinthe.net/

good stuff...but it's all hype about the hallucinations.

 

[I Are Baboon]

I was watching a drinking show and they were in an absinthe bar in the Czech Republic. They asked everyone in the bar if they actually liked absinthe and nobody did...not even the bartenders. Still, the place was packed. There must be some good effects from the stuff if nobody likes it but everyone was drinking it. That, or they are all fixie riding hipsters who just want to be cool.

I'd throw a few back. I'd try to, anyway.

 

[Westy]

Just throw a big bud of weed and chunk of Mimosa bark into a bottle of Yaegermeister

 

[crashdwn22]

yeah, I've tried it. The wormwood contains the thujone which is the supposedly hallucinogenic stuff. I had a few shots with some friends and it tastes like liquorice but more bitter than like jagermeister. Not particularly tasty. No one who tried it (it was from amsterdam and had thujone in it) hallucinated. Instead you feel like a combo of being drunk and stoned. Real relaxed and ****. It's reeeaaally hard to think straight.

 

[bitingback]

the one thing i REALLY enjoyed about it was no hangovers. i had one evening in Texas...my first trip there...we had a wrench nite and i was shootin shots left and right. if i had had the same amount to drink with tequila...i'd have been hurtin ALL day...instead i woke up a bit tired and ready for the day. i don't mind the taste...as stated...it tastes like liquorice.

 

[N8 v2.0]

the one thing i REALLY enjoyed about it was no hangovers. i had one evening in Texas...my first trip there...we had a wrench nite and i was shootin shots left and right. if i had had the same amount to drink with tequila...i'd have been hurtin ALL day...instead i woke up a bit tired and ready for the day. i don't mind the taste...as stated...it tastes like liquorice.

wench nite?

 

[bitingback]

wench nite?

the only wench of the nite was the one that started all the sh*t and then didn't have the nutz to show up. :biggrin:

 

[laura]

Just throw a big bud of weed and chunk of Mimosa bark into a bottle of Yaegermeister

 

[N8 v2.0]

the only wench of the nite was the one that started all the sh*t and then didn't have the nutz to show up. :biggrin:

 

[FR4life.]

I've had it a couple times and had fun. colors were brighter and more vivid, it was pretty cool. The wormwood is formented (sp) and it just makes you drunk and see sh1t weird, don't know the specifics cause I don't see much of the stuff. Super hard to come by, in the u.s. at least.

 

[teamkranzelbike]

I just cracked open a bottle of Lucid. The hype says it is the exact same as the stuff from before it was banned. one thing is it is not green. They say that the green color is an additive and not the actual color. After 3 drinks I did get a good buzz and although I did not feel overy creative I did get a bit restless. I actually spent about an hour adjusting the oil level in my fork.
It is not bad tasting, but iI do not feel it is worth the 70.00 price tag It was wrth a try, and it is a good conversation starter.
I am going to pull out one of my Frienkenstien movies this weekend light a candle and see how the stuff works on my girlfriend.

 

[nwd_26]

the one thing i REALLY enjoyed about it was no hangovers. i had one evening in Texas...my first trip there...we had a wrench nite and i was shootin shots left and right. if i had had the same amount to drink with tequila...i'd have been hurtin ALL day...instead i woke up a bit tired and ready for the day. i don't mind the taste...as stated...it tastes like liquorice.

i think i called the taste "liquorice strained through a hobo's asscrack. tastes awful, but decent other than than

 

[vtjim]

Wow, it's really amazing that people go on and on about how crazy Absinthe is.

After downing many bottles of this stuff I can attest that while you get a different drunk feeling than say from Gin, it's just another drink. Just like you get a different kind of drunk from whiskey compared to Beer.

That being said I am a huge fan of it. If you like the taste of liquorish you might like it. It's very similar to Zambuca, but not as 'thick'.

 

[cannondalejunky]

Vietnamese cobra wine supposedly makes you hallucinate for 2 days

 

[Broken_Spoke]

Vietnamese cobra wine supposedly makes you hallucinate for 2 days

According to who?

When I went into the liquor store last week to grab a bottle of vodka I saw they had absinthe, but it was $75 per bottle. I don't know how some people justify spending that much on a bottle of something that tastes like ass.

 

[cannondalejunky]

According to who?

When I went into the liquor store last week to grab a bottle of vodka I saw they had absinthe, but it was $75 per bottle. I don't know how some people justify spending that much on a bottle of something that tastes like ass.

no idea...thats why i said supposedly

 

[ultraNoob]

It's sold in one of my local liquor stores... may have to try it out sometime

 

[zahgurim]

The stuff sold in North America isn't really Absinthe, as it has much lower levels of thujone and alcohol than the Euro stuff to be allowed to be imported and put on the shelves.

I've tried a few different kinds.
I like the evil-strong Chechoslovakian stuff the most. 180 proof, with more alcohol & thujone than most others.
It tastes like licorrice-anal-fire by itself, but mixes well with blue Powerade (heathen? I know...).
The drunk off of it is flowy... after the first 4 drinks or so you are 100 percent lucid --> not drunk, thinking fine; but your body feels rubberbendy, and bright lights leave tracers. Then it hits you, and everything is rubberbendy and happy.
No hangover even with the 80% alcohol, because of the Powerade mix.

Good for a night at the club dancing/porning.

I order mine online, from Germany. I'll look for the link, and post it up. I think they ship stateside, too...

edit: absinthe

and also: British place

 

[ultraNoob]

^^^ hmmm, might be a nice vegas trip accessory

 

[bitingback]

Then it hits you, and everything is rubberbendy and happy.

I'm thinking sig line right there.

 

[Arkayne]

^^^ hmmm, might be a nice vegas trip accessory

Did you say Mammoth?

 

[CosyNostra]

Absinthe in the USA has <10ppm thujone. Many people (actually manufacturers interested in the lucrative US market) will tell you that thujone is irrelevant and have even got obscure German labs to back them up with tests on old bottles that ignore the fact that thujone degrades over +100 years!!!!!

The fact remains that alcohol is a GABA agonist. It stimulates the production of this neurotransmitter which causes drowsiness and sleep. Thujone is a GABA antagonist. It prohibits alcohol from performing that part of it's function. Absinthe is therefore a type of 'speedball', it's chemical constituents at once promote the production of GABA and opens its receptors, while also closing those receptors off. This explains the 'green fairy" that absinthe has, as oppossed to just normal drunkenness.

Here is REAL scientific report that was not commisioned by crafty absinthe manufacturers:

CONCLUSION: As they are apparently opposed to the effect of alcohol, the reactions observed here can be explained by the antagonistic effect of thujone on the gamma-aminobutyric acid receptor. Similar alterations were observed for the other mood state dimensions examined. Absinthe: attention performance and mood under the influence of thujone.Dettling A, Grass H, Schuff A, Skopp G, Strohbeck-Kuehner P, Haffner HT. Institute of Forensic and Traffic Medicine, University of Heidelberg, Heidelberg, Germany.

If you wish to get the real absinthe effect you have to buy a pricey imported European absinthe with an "amer" classification, which is upto 35mg thujone, or one of the artisinal varieties like Century Absinthe with 100mg thujone (Costs a lot and there is always a waiting list)

Remember that iced water is the key to releasing the herbal oils - and thujone - mix it with Red Bull and you are wasting your time....ditto with "thujone free" impostors in supermarkets. Wormwood is not to everyone's taste, but I love it

 

[ultraNoob]

Absinthe in the USA has <10ppm thujone. Many people (actually manufacturers interested in the lucrative US market) will tell you that thujone is irrelevant and have even got obscure German labs to back them up with tests on old bottles that ignore the fact that thujone degrades over +100 years!!!!!

The fact remains that alcohol is a GABA agonist. It stimulates the production of this neurotransmitter which causes drowsiness and sleep. Thujone is a GABA antagonist. It prohibits alcohol from performing that part of it's function. Absinthe is therefore a type of 'speedball', it's chemical constituents at once promote the production of GABA and opens its receptors, while also closing those receptors off. This explains the 'green fairy" that absinthe has, as oppossed to just normal drunkenness.

Here is REAL scientific report that was not commisioned by crafty absinthe manufacturers:



If you wish to get the real absinthe effect you have to buy a pricey imported European absinthe with an "amer" classification, which is upto 35mg thujone, or one of the artisinal varieties like Century Absinthe with 100mg thujone (Costs a lot and there is always a waiting list)

Remember that iced water is the key to releasing the herbal oils - and thujone - mix it with Red Bull and you are wasting your time....ditto with "thujone free" impostors in supermarkets. Wormwood is not to everyone's taste, but I love it

wow, that's one hell of a first post. Welcome to Ridemonkey!

 

[Arkayne]

Yeah, nice 1st post! You must be one of those edumacated ones. Welcome to RM, smartypants.

 

[CosyNostra]

Yeah, nice 1st post! You must be one of those edumacated ones. Welcome to RM, smartypants.

:biggrin:

I got an 'ology..."Antony people will always need plates"

 

[Bushwhacker]

I've got a buddy that is an absinthe freak. He's pretty well off so he has the coin to send off for different types of high end stuff. I personally don't care for it, but I'm not much of a liquor drinker anyways.

couple of pics of his collection...

 

[abrocks22]

the worms that make the wormwood are apparently endangered so most abstinthe doesnt work anymore!

 

[spocomptonrider]

Vietnamese cobra wine supposedly makes you hallucinate for 2 days

This stuff is called Habu Sake (at least in Japan) after drinking Absinthe' (in rather large quantities I might add) I can attest to the its power. More of a intense floating feeling than anything. That being said I do not reccomend...

 

[caputo1989]

A buddy and myself sampled some and didnt expierence anything strage, so we ended up drinking the whole bottle and Blacked out. All i can remember is bumbering around and feeling sick from all the sugar in it.

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

A buddy and myself sampled some and didnt expierence anything strage, so we ended up drinking the whole bottle and Blacked out. All i can remember is bumbering around and feeling sick from all the sugar in it.

I think you might be pregnant.

 

[Broken_Spoke]

I think you might be pregnant.

Great, another baby with fetal alcohol syndrome.

 

[muchojackdaniel]

the worms that made this worm wood that used to be in the drink are dead it doesnt work anymore

 

[Damo]

Another good reason to be here in Euroland!

Absinthe here doesn't make you hallucinate, but it is certainly a different 'drunk' than vodka etc will get you.

We also have a beer called Mutzig that is the Absinthe of beers. It is on tap here in Morzine! Mmmmmmm.....

 

[Total Heckler]

I had 9 shots of the 151 equivalent (proof wise) absinthe when I was in Greece. All hype. I just got stupid drunk and peed off of the top deck of the cruise ship I was on. I also was really loud and apparently woke a lot of guests on the ship.

Later that night I threw up for a couple hours.

That stuff tastes awful.