ACLU being ridiculous again....

Silver · Jun 2, 2004

Didn't we do this one last week?

RhinofromWA · Jun 2, 2004

Originally posted by Silver
Didn't we do this one last week?

I think so.....I didn't participate (atleast on topic

) but it sounds familiar.

Silver · Jun 2, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
I think it was a sidenote of another thread, but we didnt get into it very far.

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87422

LordOpie · Jun 2, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
shut your face.

I'm starting to think that BS was homeschooled, but his parents weren't that smart

Hey, let's start a homeschooled thread? And what if retards wanted to homeschool their kids? What if those retards wanted to go to college?

Yeah, I got nothin'.

Ridemonkey · Jun 2, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
Im telling my mom you said she wasnt smart. She's going to drive over and hit you.

So what you are saying is your mom would hit it?

LordOpie · Jun 2, 2004

Originally posted by Ridemonkey
So what you are saying is your mom would hit it?

If by "it", you mean me... I'm so there!

LordOpie · Jun 2, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
i thought you already hit it.

ya know what BS, fvck you! You are zero fun to pick on. There's absolutely nothing anyone can say to annoy you. You're no fun, we're not friends anymore. But we can be friends again if you let me ride your new bike.

valve bouncer · Jun 3, 2004

Get a room you two :rolleyes:

$tinkle · Jun 3, 2004

this thread can be revived each week it seems:

background (3/13/04)

A lawsuit by the ACLU challenging Tennessee's yet-to-be issued ''Choose Life'' specialty license plate can proceed, a U.S. District Court judge ruled yesterday.

update (today)

PIGEON FORGE, Tenn. Some charitable organizations in Tennessee are urging state lawmakers change the way they approve specialty license plates. The charities are worried they will collectively lose millions of dollars if the American Civil Liberties Union (search) wins its federal lawsuit against one of the tags.

so, where's all the hub-bub over all the other 344 vanity plates?

Hey, isn't that an elephant in the room?

BuddhaRoadkill · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
...and the war on Christianity continues.

Apparently, not fast enough. :devil:

Edited to remove offensive commentary.

Andyman_1970 · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by BuddhaRoadkill
Apparently, not fast enough. Bring back the lions!! :devil:

Play nice now.....................

BuddhaRoadkill · Jun 3, 2004

Ack!

If more were like Andyman_1970, I wouldn't have such a harsh view.

Ever consider the idea that your religion is under attack - from within ?

BuddhaRoadkill · Jun 3, 2004

Good point. I thought it might be over the line when I posted it.
... but for some dumb reason I kneejerked it anyway.

I'll edit.

Silver · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
That statement is a perfect example of where we stand today.

For instance: If I'd said "The war on Judaism Continues"

and you said "Apparently not fast enough. Bring back the gas chambers"

You'd probably get banned from RM. Its just acceptable these days to bash the christians and i think thats pretty lame.

Bull****.

If you think comparing Christian "persecution" in America today to the Holocaust is a valid comparision, you're off your rocker.

Either that or I missed the part where 5 or 6 million Christians were systematically murdered by the United States government.

Please explain to me how exactly Christians are being persectued these days in the US. Really, I'm all ears...

Silver · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
Dude, I know you're smarter than that.

Im comparing the persecution of the Christians in Roman times to that of the Jews in Nazi times....or was that not evident

The fact that he can make a joke about one religion being slaughtered in the past, and not another clearly shows the double standard.

Except that the thread happens to be about "persecution" today in the United States.

Was was the first line of your first post in this thread again???

And your analogy still sucks. It's kind of hard to stop being Jewish, even if you don't subscribe to the mythical nonsense. No one is born Christian (unless you're a Calvinist, I guess.) The Jews in Germany couldn't stand up and say, "Don't believe it, not a Jew anymore!" See the difference?

Tenchiro · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
That statement is a perfect example of where we stand today.

For instance: If I'd said "The war on Judaism Continues"

and you said "Apparently not fast enough. Bring back the gas chambers"

You'd probably get banned from RM. Its just acceptable these days to bash the christians and i think thats pretty lame.

I think it is acceptable to bash any arbitrary group, that people can choose to join. It's not like they don't have a choice to be a member after all.

So screw the Christians, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Elks, Shriners, Boy Scouts, the VFW and especially the Young Republicans.

If they don't like that, well then screw 'em! .!. .!.

LordOpie · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by Silver
And your analogy still sucks. It's kind of hard to stop being Jewish, even if you don't subscribe to the mythical nonsense. No one is born Christian (unless you're a Calvinist, I guess.) The Jews in Germany couldn't stand up and say, "Don't believe it, not a Jew anymore!" See the difference?

that's true, even if you denounce judiasms, other jews just think you're taking a hiatus.

Plus, you have to consider the time frame... one was decades ago, the other millenia. They're both wrong, but as for scope of sensitivity, time does make a difference and I hope that one day people can joke about the gas chambers... cuz that'll mean enough time without any significant persecution has passed.

Silver · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
you're really reaching.
The persecution today deals with the, ill print it big for you FACT THAT HE CAN MAKE A JOKE ABOUT ONE RELIGION BEING PERSECUTED IN THE PAST, BUT NOT ANOTHER ONE
The analogy is sound, regardless of how you're born...people are under attack for their beleifs.

You are being rediculous.

Nope, I'm being serious.

Let me walk you through this:

Jews were not persecuted by the Germans due to religious beliefs that could be changed. They were persecuted because they were Jewish.

Atheist with Jewish parents? Off to the camps.

Christian with Jewish parents? Off to the camps.

Judaist with Jewish parents? Off to the camps.

Do you see what I'm getting at? You've confused religion with race. Nero persecuted the Christians (a religion) while Hitler attempted genocide (and being non-religious didn't get you a "Get out of Buchenwald free" card.)

$tinkle · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by Silver
And your analogy still sucks. It's kind of hard to stop being Jewish, even if you don't subscribe to the mythical nonsense. No one is born Christian (unless you're a Calvinist, I guess.) The Jews in Germany couldn't stand up and say, "Don't believe it, not a Jew anymore!" See the difference?

i guess we can get back to beating gays?

Andyman_1970 · Jun 3, 2004

Burly I agree with you.

Originally posted by BurlySurly
FACT THAT HE CAN MAKE A JOKE ABOUT ONE RELIGION BEING PERSECUTED IN THE PAST, BUT NOT ANOTHER ONE
The analogy is sound, regardless of how you're born...people are under attack for their beleifs.

This is the double standard: why is it acceptable for someone to "attack" Christians and yet those same people get all wound up when a Christian says something as "vanilla" and non-specific as abortion is wrong, or homosexuality is a sin?(two ideas I have expressed on here) We are labeled narrow minded bigots while the "open minded free thinkers" do the same thing (bash Christians), and sometimes with more venom.

Isn't this same hypocricy (sp?) what most "open minded free thinkers" hate most about Christianity? So why is it acceptable for them to behave this way, are they immune from the same criteria they use to judge others?

Now, are these attacks unfounded? No, there are plenty of wacko's out there professing to be a follower of Jesus and yet their life does not demonstrate it (Jesus had a word for these folks). But for the "free thinkers" why stoop to the level of those you you dislike? Why fire back with the same "ammunition" that you hate to see Christians use?

Andyman_1970 · Jun 3, 2004

So Silver, are you asserting it's "ok"(or "less bad") to bash/attack/persecute someone for their beliefs but not their race/heritage???? :confused:

LordOpie · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by BurlySurly
eat piss opie

WTF KIND OF PISS DO YOU HAVE? If it's coming out chunky bra, ya needs to have that checked!

PS: It's not ok to bash christians, I was strictly commenting on the lions "joke" and how there is a difference. Time heals all wounds... eventually and 60 years ain't enough. Blacks still complain about slavery... has enough time passed there? I don't hear any christians freaking out when they see a lion at the zoo.

$tinkle · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by LordOpie
PS: It's not ok to bash christians, I was strictly commenting on the lions "joke" and how there is a difference. Time heals all wounds... eventually and 60 years ain't enough. Blacks still complain about slavery... has enough time passed there? I don't hear any christians freaking out when they see a lion at the zoo.

& i don't see blacks freaking out at home depot, or you guys freaking out at a VW dealership; so i guess we're all good.

LordOpie · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by $tinkle
& i don't see blacks freaking out at home depot, or you guys freaking out at a VW dealership; so i guess we're all good.

lmao, but you're analogy is wrong. I'd freak out if I saw a gas chamber. Blacks would freak if they saw the KKK

$tinkle · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by LordOpie
lmao, but you're analogy is wrong. I'd freak out if I saw a gas chamber

then you'd best steer clear of my cube for a few hours - i had chipotles

Silver · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by Andyman_1970
So Silver, are you asserting it's "ok"(or "less bad") to bash/attack/persecute someone for their beliefs but not their race/heritage????

On a sliding scale?

Yes. I see BS bashing PETA all the time...making fun of them, ridiculing them.

PETA people aren't born that way. They have a set of beliefs they subscribe to. Do PETA people deserved to get bashed? I'd say yes...and I have no problem bashing the Christian right for exactly the same reasons. (Loud, obnoxious, they love to force their beliefs on others.)

Making fun of a black person because he's black, or a Jew, or a woman is different. It's not something that can be changed, it's a matter of being born that way.

Tenchiro · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by Andyman_1970
So Silver, are you asserting it's "ok"(or "less bad") to bash/attack/persecute someone for their beliefs but not their race/heritage????

I think groups like the KKK would fall under this category. Many people hate their beliefs, and it is commonly accepted as being alright to do so.

I think you are going to find all sorts of people who hate others beleifs, no matter what they are.

Personally I would like to take a bat upside some Aryan heads.

Andyman_1970 · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by Silver
Do PETA people deserved to get bashed? I'd say yes...and I have no problem bashing the Christian right for exactly the same reasons. (Loud, obnoxious, they love to force their beliefs on others.)

"Deserved" to get bashed? What's up with that?

So it's "ok" for you to have a double standard, but you can "bash" Christians for the same thing? Where is that verse about the log in your eye and the speck of sawdust in your brothers............hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm, I know it's around here somewhere............................. :rolleyes:

$tinkle · Jun 3, 2004

Originally posted by Silver
PETA people aren't born that way. They have a set of beliefs they subscribe to. Do PETA people deserved to get bashed? I'd say yes...and I have no problem bashing the Christian right for exactly the same reasons. (Loud, obnoxious, they love to force their beliefs on others.)

again with the gays...

do you not tire from setting these up?

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