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Discussion in 'Politics & World News' started by MMike, Nov 21, 2010.

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    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2013477326_tanker20.html

    I know this is of limited interest....but it's still incredible.

    This Air Force tanker thing has been going on since before 1999....I was at Boeing sitting around discussing how maybe that contract would extend my job for a while (as it was based on the 767).

    It's gone around and around so many times now.

    But this was (supposed) epic fail.....I'm sure it was done on purpose.....but let's say it wasn't.....then the fail is epic.

    This is the timeline of this thing
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2013477347_tankertimeline20.html
     

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    These dumb ****ers obviously need more money.

    I call for immediate cuts to social security and medicaid.
     
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    Social Security and Medicaid are Socialist bull****. Wasting money on the defense industry is just good old fashioned capitalist job building.
     
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    Yeah that tanker thing has been a complete circle jerk for sure. I might add both the F-22 and F-35 are equally as f'ed up programs.
     
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    Can we add the Presidential helicopter bid to the list?
     
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    Oh yeah I forgot all about that.........how many BILLION for 4 or 5 helicopters?
     
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    X3pilot Texans fan - LOL

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    I work logistics and acqusition for the Navy at Pax River Test Facility. The stories I could tell you...

    Don't forget this gem, governmental payback for crybabies that don't get JSF awards:

     
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    Yeah but the Posideon is replacing the Orions which are worn smooth out. But IMO the better option would have been to build more new Orions, is there really a NEED for a different platform? That's my same arguement with the Raptor and F-35, there is no threat that drives the need for that. Maybe keep a scant few "just in case" (kind of like the B-2 and F-117) but replace the worn out F-16's, and -15's that do the job we need right now just fine.

    But I digress...........
     
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    Last I heard was $13B for 28 helicopters.

    The article is a little dated but seems to be the latest public word on the bid
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/business/07copter.html
     
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    That's still an A$$ load of money for helicopters.......why 28? I could see 10 or 12, but 28?
     
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    IH8Rice I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!

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    even the F117 and B2 arent needed now with the advanced payloads that are available now for the current airplanes in service.
    the F22 and F35 were both obviously designed ages ago when we thought there were more threats towards us then there really were.
    the F15 was/is a amazing platform (though dogfights b/w the F15 and F22 proved to be bad for the F15)

    now that the F35 and F22 are coming into service, they seem even more useless with fewer enemies out there
     
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    IH8Rice I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!

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    c-17 axed, GE f35 engine development axed. F-22 postponed. Glad I switched to 'affordable' UAVs.

    ...I thought McCain fixed all of this. HA
     
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    Yeah, I spent 24 years as a Flight Engineer on P-3s and work that program now. Way deep inside the "new" wing program. Yeah, coulda built a new lot of P-3s a few years back when Lockheed opened the line in Marietta for the Koreans. But, Mother Boeing must be sacrificed to so,...
     
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    There are some instances were something low observable is needed, say if we were to get jiggy with Iran, North Korea or China. That deep first strike is useful as we’ve seen. However there is no need for that now. I’ve thought why can’t we keep the capability to churn out dozens more if there is some sort of crisis/war vs. building them……..something akin to the massive industrial effort of WWII.

     
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    i grew up learning about military aircraft when the Tomcats, Intruders, Prowlers. Hawkeyes were all still operational. ive always been a fan of all those aircraft too....particularly the F14.


    the A10 is a perfect airframe for the war we are fighting now. slow moving aircraft that can linger on station for a long time and deliver massive amounts of firepower accurately and take some massive damage.
     
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    ...Its been filled by the Reaper.



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    Apparently the decision should be announced at 2:10pm today (I assume PST)
     
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    MMike A fowl peckerwood.

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    I was wearing one of my 767 t-shirts today. I didn't even know today was the big day. It must be fate.

     
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    I had it a toss up between Boeing and Lockheed back in the day...
    What relevance that has to this, I do not know...