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Al Gore’s Arab Pander

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Gore's Remarks in Saudi Arabia Draw Strong Criticism
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
February 14, 2006


(CNSNews.com) - A speech in which former Vice President Al Gore told a mostly Saudi audience that the U.S. had committed "terrible abuses" against Arabs after 9/11 continues to make waves, with critics calling the remarks disloyal and "inappropriate during a time of war."

Some also challenged Gore's reported assertion that "thoughtless" U.S. visa policies towards Arabs were playing into al Qaeda's hands. The most serious questions, however, involved Gore's decision to criticize his country's policies while abroad -- at a time when Muslim feelings against the West are running high.

Addressing the Jeddah Economic Forum, Gore said Sunday that after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Arabs in America had been "indiscriminately rounded up, often on minor charges of overstaying a visa or not having a green card in proper order, and held in conditions that were just unforgivable."

Gore told his audience, "I do want you to know that it does not represent the desires or wishes or feelings of the majority of the citizens of my country."

In a statement, the National Association of Chiefs of Police accused Gore of having "crossed the line of diplomatic decency by denigrating his own country within the Islamic world."

It said if he had evidence of "terrible abuses" he should put it before the Department of Justice or Congress.

The body also called the comments "shrill," "loathsome" and "ugly," and said they should be condemned by Republicans, Democrats and Independents alike.

"What possesses a former vice president of the U.S. to travel to the birthplace of Islamist terrorism and denounce his country?" asked the website Investors.com in an editorial.

"Unhinged by the 2000 electoral debacle, he has forgotten the meaning of 'loyal opposition,'" it concluded. "Now his only entitlement is disgrace."

Terence Jeffrey, editor of Human Events magazine, questioned Gore's statements criticizing post-9/11 visa policy, given the conclusions of the 9/11 commission that the hijackers - 15 of whom were Saudis - had taken advantage of weak immigration and law enforcement in the U.S.

Conservative bloggers also weighed in, calling Gore's remarks repugnant, insidious - even treasonous - and a debate is raging on Al Gore website discussion forums.

Many critics noted that Gore was making the comments in a country characterized by an absence of democracy, religious freedom violations, and second-class status for women

Irish President Mary McAleese and Cherie Blair, wife of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, both also addressed the forum, speaking in a venue in which men and women were physically separated from each other. They called for women's participation in Saudi Arabia's political and economic life.

The three-day forum, now in its seventh year, has become a major event on the kingdom's calendar, and is sometimes nicknamed the Middle East Doha.

Previous keynote speakers have included former President Clinton, whose 2002 appearance netted him a $300,000 fee, according to the campaign finance website PoliticalMoneyOnline. Clinton returned in 2004.

Former President George H.W. Bush and his businessman son, Neil Bush, have also participated in past forums. Other visitors this year included former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroder and Forbes Inc. president Steve Forbes.

According to the forum website, the Saudi Binladin Group - the Jeddah-based construction firm owned by Osama bin Laden's family - has been a key sponsor, listed in that capacity for this year's event as well as those in 2004 and 2002.

The company, which employs 35,000 people, has distanced itself from the al-Qaeda leader.
 

Old Man G Funk

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All right, I'll bite.

"Shrill", "loathsome", and "ugly"? He criticized the policies and the actions of the administration, yet he's now being criticized for attacking the country? He's being called names (what was that about Dems. being the name callers?) He's also having his patriotism called into question for daring to criticize the admin. during a "time of war." What is ugly is the demonization of someone exercising their first amendment rights. What is ugly is the "with us or against us" mentality where you either have to support Bush or you are a traitor. It's completely antithetical to the ideas that this country was founded on.
 

jimmydean

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Old Man G Funk said:
All right, I'll bite.

"Shrill", "loathsome", and "ugly"? He criticized the policies and the actions of the administration, yet he's now being criticized for attacking the country? He's being called names (what was that about Dems. being the name callers?) He's also having his patriotism called into question for daring to criticize the admin. during a "time of war." What is ugly is the demonization of someone exercising their first amendment rights. What is ugly is the "with us or against us" mentality where you either have to support Bush or you are a traitor. It's completely antithetical to the ideas that this country was founded on.
And that's what pisses me off more than anything. This country was founded on the idea of the ability to question authority, but that isn't the case under the current admin. If you question what they do, then you MUST be working for "them".

The whole idea of our constitutional rights are built around freedoms, including the concept of questioning how things are being run at the white house.

This right wing hardline BS makes me want to move to Canada.
 

fluff

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Strange, I thought that US courts martial had convicted people of terrible abuses of Arabs. How disloyal of them.

Stupid article quoted by stupid people.

Edit - Panda..
 

The Amish

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N8 said:
Gore's Remarks in Saudi Arabia Draw Strong Criticism
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
February 14, 2006


Addressing the Jeddah Economic Forum, Gore said Sunday that after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Arabs in America had been "indiscriminately rounded up, often on minor charges of overstaying a visa or not having a green card in proper order, and held in conditions that were just unforgivable."
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Not for nothin but if your visa's expired or you dont have a green card then you should be rounded up and kicked the **** out. I love how only some laws apply in this country. I cant smoke a joint in a park without gettin arrested but when it comes to things like immigration. Politicians are like oh thats just a silly law that doesnt really mean anything. Either all the laws mean something or none of them do. Which is it?

Whatever though just another Stupid liberal who couldn't even beat George.
 

Old Man G Funk

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The Amish said:
Not for nothin but if your visa's expired or you dont have a green card then you should be rounded up and kicked the **** out. I love how only some laws apply in this country. I cant smoke a joint in a park without gettin arrested but when it comes to things like immigration. Politicians are like oh thats just a silly law that doesnt really mean anything. Either all the laws mean something or none of them do. Which is it?

Whatever though just another Stupid liberal who couldn't even beat George.
Ever stop to think that expired visas are pretty low on the scale of crimes? That some of those people were basically rounded up in secret and taken away from their families? That some of them ended up at Gitmo even though they shouldn't have?

Besides, even if Gore is wrong, does it make him a traitor or unpatriotic? You are also attacking the messenger with your last sentence. Your first paragraph is a dodge of the argument presented.
 

The Amish

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Feb 22, 2005
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a crime is a crime. If it wasnt there wouldnt be a law, thats all im sayin. Its like the sienfield episode. Theres no big coincidences or small coincidences, just coincidences.
 

Old Man G Funk

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The Amish said:
a crime is a crime. If it wasnt there wouldnt be a law, thats all im sayin. Its like the sienfield episode. Theres no big coincidences or small coincidences, just coincidences.
So, if someone's visa expires, we should round that person up and subject that person to any conditions we want? A crime is a crime afterall. Hey, next time you get pulled over for speeding, maybe they'll round you up and take you to jail and keep you from talking to a lawyer, etc.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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Still less biased than faux.
yes, because if there's any news outlet that reported more accurately on the arab spring, egyptian muslim brotherhood, syria, benghazi, and iran arming hamas, it's al-jizzbag. you ever heard of rola ibrahim? how about ali hashem?

how's your arabic:

and fox's pandering to women must stop immediately, lest arab men be tempting to stop buggering each other in favor of women

of course fox leans right on their opinion pages/analysts/general talking head agitprop, but their news reporting is largely aggregated from UPI/Reuters/AP, and then distinguished by wall-to-wall coverage of missing & killed pretty white girls.
 

$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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Seriously...how do you do this? You are the king of necrothreads. DO you actually remember that once upon a time someone posted something? Do you do a search?

This is a 7 year old thread! How do you do it??
i have a well shored RM spank bank

c'mon, who among us doesn't occasionally wax nostalgic over their first thread?