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Al-Qaeda spells out Iraq attack strategy in handbook

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Al-Qaeda spells out Iraq attack strategy in handbook: report
Wednesday June 30

PARIS (AFP) - Al-Qaeda reportedly planned to target Spain as the weakest link of the coalition in Iraq to force its troop pullout, according to a document from the terror network.

"We consider that the Spanish government cannot suffer more than two to three strikes before pulling out (of Iraq) under pressure from its own people," said the document obtained Wednesday by AFP from Raido France International's regional office in Beirut.

"If these (Spanish) forces remain after the strikes, the victory of the socialist party would be near-guaranteed and the pullout of Spanish forces from Iraq would be on its agenda," said the document, distributed ahead of the March 11 attacks in Madrid.

Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, elected after the train bombings in Madrid which left 191 people dead in Spain's worst ever terrorist attack, withdrew Spanish troops from the troubled country in May.

The document has apparently been issued in late February, as it refers to the early days of the Islamic new year which fell on February 21.

Made-up of 54 pages in Arabic, the document has been authenticated by western experts of the Islamic radical terror network of Saudi-born fugitive Osama bin Laden.

The document, entitled "the Iraq of Jihad (holy war): hopes and dangers," was prepared by the "information agency for the support of the Iraqi people -- office of services for the Mujahedeen (holy warriors)."

A lengthy chapter of the document focuses on "the main allies of the United States in their aggression against Iraq: Britain, Italy, Poland and Spain, as well as some Arab countries."

But most of the chapter is about Spain, considering that the pullout of Spanish troops would "constitute a pressure on the British (military) presence that (Prime Minister) Tony Blair would not be able to bear."

"It will not take long for pawns to fall, but the headpiece (US) still has to be knocked down," it said.

It called for striking US forces in Iraq on a daily basis in order to force them "to disperse on the territory, weaken their efficiency and strike the morale of the soldiers."

"The operations should be concentrated on the Arab Sunni sector... (given) the absence of motives for the explosion of the situation in the Shiite southern regions and the Kurdish north," it said.

The booklet, presented as a handbook for the "Mujahedeen," called on the "Iraqi resistance (to form) a movement which gathers the factions of the Jihad... and unite in the same objective, as currently they are not united in the same organisation."

"The Mujahedeens in Iraq should now concentrate on the complete pullout of all foreign forces from all Iraqi territory," it said.

"They should not carry out any operation targeting the daily life of the Iraqi people or its future, such as the basic services or education, except for oil which should not be exploited under occupation," it said.

"Oil exports are the main American hope to gain the financial resources necessary for the occupation," it said.

The document also contains a chapter on the economic situation of the United States, seen from the angle of the occupation of Iraq.

It said the US plan was "to build an Iraqi state as conceived by the United States...and enslave Saudi Arabia politically, fight against Islamic proselytism as a salafist and jihadic movement."

"This would be (for the US) the first step toward the eradication of hardline Islam in the entire world," it said.
 

N8 v2.0

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I think the terrorists would LOVE to sway the US election Kerry's way and are probably planning ops to attempt to do just that.

Every Kerry supporter should consider whom the terrorists would want in the White House, Kerry or Bush.
 

Toshi

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you know what, tho? al qaeda is right that the u.s. wants to set up the middle east with puppet "democracies"
 

Westy

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N8 said:
I think the terrorists would LOVE to sway the US election Kerry's way and are probably planning ops to attempt to do just that.

Every Kerry supporter should consider whom the terrorists would want in the White House, Kerry or Bush.
Good point N8, from here on out every decision I make I will ask myself WWTTWMTD (what would the terrorists want me to do), then I will do the exact opposite.
I was thinking going on vacation, WWTTWMTD? They would want me to get on a plane and become a target. Fack those terrorists, I'm going to stay home instead.

I was going to buy an SUV. WWTTWMTD? they would want me to get one so I would buy the oil from the people that fund them. I'm getting a new road bike insted.
 

LordOpie

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" "This would be (for the US) the first step toward the eradication of hardline Islam in the entire world," it said."
-- and that's bad why? It seems to me that the most violent people in the world are the Islamic extremists.

N8 said:
I think the terrorists would LOVE to sway the US election Kerry's way and are probably planning ops to attempt to do just that.

Every Kerry supporter should consider whom the terrorists would want in the White House, Kerry or Bush.
If the terrorists attack, I'd be far more likely to vote for Bush. I wouldn't be surprised if most swing voters feel the same way.

Westy said:
I'm getting a new road bike insted.
Terrorists want you to buy a double.
 

Tenchiro

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LordOpie said:
doesn't bollocks mean butt/@ss?

If so, uhh, you want him to be King of your butt? Would that make you the queen? :D
Not only could it mean testicles, but also it means lies or bullsh*t.
 
you know, the funny thing is, after the smoke clears, the lefties won't care what Al-Queda did/wants to do, and insist on turning our path the same way as the Spaniards. And wasn't it a surprise that the Spaniards would pull out after any threats at all. No wonder tehy lost to the British, and that's just sad.

Hail to the Losers!!!! Oops, I mean the fine people of Spain.
 

LordOpie

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nicklin said:
you know, the funny thing is, after the smoke clears, the lefties won't care what Al-Queda did/wants to do, and insist on turning our path the same way as the Spaniards. And wasn't it a surprise that the Spaniards would pull out after any threats at all. No wonder tehy lost to the British, and that's just sad.

Hail to the Losers!!!! Oops, I mean the fine people of Spain.
Citizens of Spain were going to vote out the old admin and vote in the new one and wanted their soldiers home regardless of any terrorist attacks. The polls showed the new admin had a significant lead before the train attack, so the theory that the terrorists did it to convince spain to leave is dubious at best.

I just like saying "dubious"... dubbie dubbie dooo :D
 

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LordOpie said:
Citizens of Spain were going to vote out the old admin and vote in the new one and wanted their soldiers home regardless of any terrorist attacks. The polls showed the new admin had a significant lead before the train attack, so the theory that the terrorists did it to convince spain to leave is dubious at best.

I just like saying "dubious"... dubbie dubbie dooo :D
The polls did NOT show that the Socialists and Rodriques Zapatero had a lead in the days leading up to the election. They showed quite the opposite. Even with a huge portion of the population polling against the government's Iraq policies (90% against), the Popular Party and Aznar had leads in the vast majority of pre-election polls. In those polls the leads were between 4 to 7 % points.

Up until the attacks the vast majority of the effort in the election had been on domestic issues (the economy and taxation being the leading two) not international. In those matters the then ruling party was seen as superior. Economically the outcome was a surprise as the Spainish stock market dropped 3.2% the day after the election results.

The big change to the outcome was driven by the number of voters. In the election almost 78% of the population voted, which is about 10% higher than normal. This increased turnout was certainly driven by the terrorists attacks and the "confusion" over the responsible party for the attacks.
 

valve bouncer

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DRB said:
The polls did NOT show that the Socialists and Rodriques Zapatero had a lead in the days leading up to the election. They showed quite the opposite. Even with a huge portion of the population polling against the government's Iraq policies (90% against), the Popular Party and Aznar had leads in the vast majority of pre-election polls. In those polls the leads were between 4 to 7 % points.

Up until the attacks the vast majority of the effort in the election had been on domestic issues (the economy and taxation being the leading two) not international. In those matters the then ruling party was seen as superior. Economically the outcome was a surprise as the Spainish stock market dropped 3.2% the day after the election results.

The big change to the outcome was driven by the number of voters. In the election almost 78% of the population voted, which is about 10% higher than normal. This increased turnout was certainly driven by the terrorists attacks and the "confusion" over the responsible party for the attacks.
Not doubting you my son, but got any sources to back that up? Sounds feasible but seems a theory that could stand some analysis. :)
 
Who honsetly cares what the election polls were before the attacks. We all know the country of Spain is just like the French. Flex some muscle in thier general direction, and they give faster than a hooker on mardi gras puts out. It was only a matter of time until they gave up and went home. If it hadnt been this, then it probably would have been their economy that caused them to pull out. The point here is we have our own elections coming up this year, what kind of stunt will Al Queda try to pull off this time??????
 

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DRB said:
The polls did NOT show that the Socialists and Rodriques Zapatero had a lead in the days leading up to the election. They showed quite the opposite. Even with a huge portion of the population polling against the government's Iraq policies (90% against), the Popular Party and Aznar had leads in the vast majority of pre-election polls. In those polls the leads were between 4 to 7 % points.

Up until the attacks the vast majority of the effort in the election had been on domestic issues (the economy and taxation being the leading two) not international. In those matters the then ruling party was seen as superior. Economically the outcome was a surprise as the Spainish stock market dropped 3.2% the day after the election results.

The big change to the outcome was driven by the number of voters. In the election almost 78% of the population voted, which is about 10% higher than normal. This increased turnout was certainly driven by the terrorists attacks and the "confusion" over the responsible party for the attacks.
Well, I bellied up to the bar tonight, ordered a Chimay and sat down the Economist (which is hardly a left wing rag, I feel obliged to point out.)

Interestingly enough, they had a focus on Spain this week. Let me type out some of the interesting relevant quotes:

90% of Spaniards, in poll after poll, said they opposed the war in Iraq and Spain's part in it.

Not least among his achievements was to turn the People's Party (PP), often seen as Francoist in its sympathies, into a respectable centre-right organisation. All this is eclipsed, if only temporarily. Instead, the failings of the second Aznar term are now remembered, most of which come under the headings of rigidity and arrogance. Top of the list, of course, is the attempted manipulation of public opinion in the period between the bombs of March 11th and the election of March 14th—the attempt to place the blame on ETA, the telephone calls to the media assuring them of ETA's guilt, the foreign minister's request for a specific condemnation of ETA in a UN resolution of sympathy, the state television's decision to drop an evening showing of “Shakespeare in Love” and run instead a documentary on the evils of ETA, and so on. This attempt at superspin—largely exposed by text-messaging on mobile phones—so infuriated a large group of Spaniards, most of them young, many of them too disillusioned with party politics to want to cast their ballots at all, that they went out and voted Socialist in disgust.

Yet these too could all have been overlooked. His economic record, his success in weakening ETA and his impending departure could have been enough to ensure a victory for the PP under Mr Rajoy. But in the event he was undone by his response to the bombings, and so was his party.

Still less was it a capitulation to terrorism, or any sort of attempt to appease Muslim attackers. Spain has lived with terror for over 30 years, during which more than 800 people have been killed by ETA. Throughout this time the Spaniards have shown no inclination to yield. On the contrary, they have taken to the streets in throngs to express their disgust with the perpetrators of terror and their sympathy for the victims—notably on March 12th, when 11m people, over a quarter of the population, joined dignified demonstrations in cities across Spain.

Though the withdrawal was genuinely an acknowledgment of the desires of a great majority of Spaniards, it was capable of being construed as a victory for terrorism.

As it was, he would not even go before parliament at the outset and make his case for sending troops to Iraq. Instead he merely asserted that it was good for Spain, and then grudgingly allowed a secret parliamentary vote, in which the entire PP was evidently whipped into line. It was only last December, eight months after the war began, that Mr Aznar addressed parliament about Iraq, on a day of mourning for seven intelligence officers just killed.


While the bombings played a role, the Spanish govenment's desperate attempt to pin it on Basque terrorists seems to be what got the Spanish people to vote against it. They obviously have a lower tolerance for bull**** than Americans do.

(edit: I had an extra space between the first and second quotes. They are one quote, not two, sorry.)
 

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genpowell71 said:
Who honsetly cares what the election polls were before the attacks. We all know the country of Spain is just like the French. Flex some muscle in thier general direction, and they give faster than a hooker on mardi gras puts out. It was only a matter of time until they gave up and went home. If it hadnt been this, then it probably would have been their economy that caused them to pull out. The point here is we have our own elections coming up this year, what kind of stunt will Al Queda try to pull off this time??????
These people have lived with terrorism much longer than US citizens have. 800 people have died in the last 30 years at the hand of the ETA. Assuming that the population of Spain has always been 40 million (which is recently was, according to the CIA World Factbook, but which is clearly a bad assumption) that means that they've had to absorb twice the casualties than the US has due to terrorist actions. Nice to see that counts for something...
 

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valve bouncer said:
Not doubting you my son, but got any sources to back that up? Sounds feasible but seems a theory that could stand some analysis. :)
Was Silver's good enough for you? Or do you want more? I can definately go on for awhile about it.

Zapatero is an interesting character as his brand of Socialism. Its funny how quickly folks will just lump them into the good 'ole LEFT category without paying attention to what he is saying. But that's not really what's on topic here.
 

ALEXIS_DH

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nicklin said:
yep, the terrorist attack was the pivotal vote switcher in that election, because as soon as they are face with threats everyone(almost) thought of conceding rather than doing something about it. I blame their way-too-laid back life style.
hmm, i guess the option that minimize actual and future casualties and stops violence for good is usually the better.

if doing something about it means to keep using their soldiers for somebody elses objectives, and paying in their deaths the consequences.

and keeping the circle of war and terrorism, which at terrorists eyes is a response of intervensionism. is not doing much to help break the circle.
 

ALEXIS_DH

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genpowell71 said:
Who honsetly cares what the election polls were before the attacks. We all know the country of Spain is just like the French. Flex some muscle in thier general direction, and they give faster than a hooker on mardi gras puts out. It was only a matter of time until they gave up and went home. If it hadnt been this, then it probably would have been their economy that caused them to pull out. The point here is we have our own elections coming up this year, what kind of stunt will Al Queda try to pull off this time??????

lol, that attitude of we´ll stay and blood each others until one pulls out reminds me of eric cartman´s ball kicking figure to decide who is the winner.

there is no need to kick nuts forever. it takes just one side to be wise and say this is enough and break the circle.
 

Batman

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nicklin said:
I blame their way-too-laid back life style.
Now say it with me (if you can): "Culture - of - fear"

But you're right, you must feel much safer now knowing that Saddam is not going to come into your house in the middle of the night and murder you.

Say, what's that alert thing at these days? Orange, red?

The point here is we have our own elections coming up this year, what kind of stunt will Al Queda try to pull off this time??????
Whatever it is, I say leave Dubbya alone. It'll be much more entertaining to watch an average white American take him out, that way you'll have no one to invade.