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Andeh

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Mar 3, 2020
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Indeed. Especially that you can run it 9, 10, 11, 12 or 13 spd. SRAM should take a lesson here.
Since some of their sponsored DH riders are already using an AXS RD with short cage, it's safe to say they will make it happen at some point. I'd guess that like the Chinese one, it will probably just be a setting in the app.
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
20,190
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Canaderp
Since some of their sponsored DH riders are already using an AXS RD with short cage, it's safe to say they will make it happen at some point. I'd guess that like the Chinese one, it will probably just be a setting in the app.
And it'll probably cost you $x to unlock said speed.


And it'll be a subscription.


And it'll have mandatory advertisements that you must listen to.
 

iRider

Turbo Monkey
Apr 5, 2008
5,648
3,089
Since some of their sponsored DH riders are already using an AXS RD with short cage, it's safe to say they will make it happen at some point. I'd guess that like the Chinese one, it will probably just be a setting in the app.
They are using the regular spacing on the cassette though. Here the spacing is different, which makes the chinese derailleur backwards compatible with old cassettes and drivetrains.
 

Leafy

Monkey
Sep 13, 2019
542
350
What’s wrong with the xt shifter? Mine was great and I can’t wait to be able to justify replacing my x01 with xt.
 

Andeh

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Mar 3, 2020
997
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Shimano fails are much more tolerated (or less reported by the specialist press) if you ask me. The XT shifter fiasco has been going on for two 12-speed generations at least, and let's better keep off the brakes topic.
Or how the XTR cassettes wear out in <200 miles? I warrantied 2 of them before unloading the whole setup on some schmuck.
 

Carraig042

me 1st
Apr 5, 2011
732
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East Tennessee
Stepped headset press from Amazon and all over the interwebs. Not perfect, but a much smoother install than hamfists. Aluminum seems to be machined decently and the handle is stainless.

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norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
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Warsaw :/
Shimano fails are much more tolerated (or less reported by the specialist press) if you ask me. The XT shifter fiasco has been going on for two 12-speed generations at least, and let's better keep off the brakes topic.
Because shifter issues are less annoying than brakes or suspension not working
 

slimshady

¡Mira, una ardilla!
Because shifter issues are less annoying than brakes or suspension not working
Nah, it's both the media minimizing the failue rate of Shimano stuff because advertizing and the consumers playing along. The same shit happens with roadies and Campagnolo, with people going like "teh price you have to pay for running teh mostest bestest and traditionalest gear".

Fuck them, each and every brand is still following the 90s' Microsoft motto, "the user is the beta tester". That's why waiting until gen2 of every product seems to be the most sensible way of moving forward.
 
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rideit

Bob the Builder
Aug 24, 2004
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In the cleavage of the Tetons
Or how the XTR cassettes wear out in <200 miles? I warrantied 2 of them before unloading the whole setup on some schmuck.
Hunh, going on year three on two bikes, usually about 200K of climbing per year.
(this year was lighter due to injuries)
Both rolling just fine.
(But very frequent chain replacements).
 
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Andeh

Customer Title
Mar 3, 2020
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What specifically wore out?
The ramp teeth just melted on the 2 biggest cogs. The rest of the cassette had no wear. It shifted great until those ramps disappeared. And yes, the RD was set up by a real mechanic (one who's even a Shimano fanboy).
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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Warsaw :/
Nah, it's both the media minimizing the failue rate of Shimano stuff because advertizing and the consumers playing along. The same shit happens with roadies and Campagnolo, with people going like "teh price you have to pay for running teh mostest bestest and traditionalest gear".

Fuck them, each and every brand is still following the 90s' Microsoft motto, "the user is the beta tester". That's why waiting until gen2 of every product seems to be the most sensible way of moving forward.
What media? The evil media also pretends Sram stuff is reliable and literally no magazine mentioned major sram issues like that "dry fork" fiasco from the past.

What you get is opinions from people. Shifter issues are annoying but it's defo less annoying than getting a fork with no oil from the factory. Or brakes that don't brake. There is no media conspiracy. The media never mentions reliability.
 

Gary

"S" is for "neo-luddite"
Aug 27, 2002
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UK
The ramp teeth just melted on the 2 biggest cogs. The rest of the cassette had no wear. It shifted great until those ramps disappeared. And yes, the RD was set up by a real mechanic (one who's even a Shimano fanboy).
Ah.. .The alu ones? Every single microspline cassette I've ever seen's sprockets flex causing noise from the chain passing the next sprocket in use. The entire microspline standard is pretty terrible.
Shimano cassettes have way gone downhill in durability since moving on from good old steel 10 speed cassettes. Those are still solid.
 
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Cerberus75

Monkey
Feb 18, 2017
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I have a small mechanic business with 40 customers. In this small pool alone I've seen easily broken derailleurs, jammed shifters with broken return springs, worn cassette or broken teeth,leaks from master cylinder and pistons. All current Shimano 12 speed. For the Sram guys it's been b screws need locktite to keep derailleur tuned.
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
5,479
4,719
Australia
For the Sram guys it's been b screws need locktite to keep derailleur tuned.
Mine do that and its fucken annoying. Also SRAM mechs don't seem to like being removed for transport or travel much. The little clip that holds the bolt into the mech gets munched and the bolt comes out pretty regularly on the GX models.
 

Cerberus75

Monkey
Feb 18, 2017
520
194
Mine do that and its fucken annoying. Also SRAM mechs don't seem to like being removed for transport or travel much. The little clip that holds the bolt into the mech gets munched and the bolt comes out pretty regularly on the GX models.
I should have said all screws need locktite. Just the b screws need looked at before every ride.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
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Warsaw :/
I have a small mechanic business with 40 customers. In this small pool alone I've seen easily broken derailleurs, jammed shifters with broken return springs, worn cassette or broken teeth,leaks from master cylinder and pistons. All current Shimano 12 speed. For the Sram guys it's been b screws need locktite to keep derailleur tuned.
Thanks for this. Been out of the loop for new stuff for a while so this helps
 

Loki87

Monkey
Aug 24, 2008
181
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Salzburg, Austria
Ah, that's a good find if it works. The price for the "original" one is ridiculous.
So i got one park day done with the protector and so far it seems totally legit. Adhesive is strong, albeit that i do of course not have long term experience with it, and there is no visible damage done to the silicone after one day. Function is also great. The pads are rather soft, but can´t be fully compressed so the damping effect is really good.
Anyone who´s looking to quiet their bike, get some.
Link

The one with the smaller pads seems only suitable for lighter use as the pads can easily be fully compressed. I assume it´d still be more than enough if the bike has minimal chainslap already and you wanna keep things looking clean.
 

StiHacka

Compensating for something
Jan 4, 2013
21,560
12,504
In hell. Welcome!
So i got one park day done with the protector and so far it seems totally legit. Adhesive is strong, albeit that i do of course not have long term experience with it, and there is no visible damage done to the silicone after one day. Function is also great. The pads are rather soft, but can´t be fully compressed so the damping effect is really good.
Anyone who´s looking to quiet their bike, get some.
Link

The one with the smaller pads seems only suitable for lighter use as the pads can easily be fully compressed. I assume it´d still be more than enough if the bike has minimal chainslap already and you wanna keep things looking clean.
I've ordered one of the smaller ones for seatstay from a seller of Chinese crap on ebay and so far, my experience with that seller has been crappy. We'll see if the protector ever arrives.
 

Fat Larry

Chimp
Feb 3, 2022
19
8
Guys, I need to buy some hose and fittings to refresh a couple of shimano brakes. Anyone have experience with Ali hydro parts? Do i need to worry about quality or are they all much the same and if so any recommendations for brands that make good stuff? Was thinking to go with Kingstop or Risk, but there are much cheaper options available.
 

Flo33

Turbo Monkey
Mar 3, 2015
2,057
1,298
Styria
So i got one park day done with the protector and so far it seems totally legit. Adhesive is strong, albeit that i do of course not have long term experience with it, and there is no visible damage done to the silicone after one day. Function is also great. The pads are rather soft, but can´t be fully compressed so the damping effect is really good.
Anyone who´s looking to quiet their bike, get some.
Link

The one with the smaller pads seems only suitable for lighter use as the pads can easily be fully compressed. I assume it´d still be more than enough if the bike has minimal chainslap already and you wanna keep things looking clean.
Thx for the heads up, I also took the enormous gamble and ordered straight away when you posted the link back then. Mine showed up yesterday and they look solid. Will put them on my Titan during the weekend.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
18,852
9,557
AK
Guys, I need to buy some hose and fittings to refresh a couple of shimano brakes. Anyone have experience with Ali hydro parts? Do i need to worry about quality or are they all much the same and if so any recommendations for brands that make good stuff? Was thinking to go with Kingstop or Risk, but there are much cheaper options available.
Hydro hose is pretty "dumb" IME, as in it's pretty hard to screw up. It just has to be the right size. Your olives have to be the right size/type, etc.

I would not go with Risk though. Bad name for product.
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
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5,443
Hydro hose is pretty "dumb" IME, as in it's pretty hard to screw up. It just has to be the right size. Your olives have to be the right size/type, etc.

I would not go with Risk though. Bad name for product.
The original Magura hose was dreadful, Goodridge hoses made a massive difference for the five seconds before brake fade kicked in or the lever came to the bar.
They were just a basic plastic tube back then though, they are a bit more fancy nowadays.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
18,852
9,557
AK
The original Magura hose was dreadful, Goodridge hoses made a massive difference for the five seconds before brake fade kicked in or the lever came to the bar.
They were just a basic plastic tube back then though, they are a bit more fancy nowadays.
I don't remember any issues with those original hoses, with Gustavs and HS33s. I do remember the shitty levers.
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
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I don't remember any issues with those original hoses, with Gustavs and HS33s. I do remember the shitty levers.
I only had Louise and Julie brakes from around 04, the Goodridge lines were awesome compared to the Magura ones.
I'd imagine if there wasn't an improvement to be had they wouldn't have added the extra material to the later ones.