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All good things haven't come to an end......yet.

Sep 14, 2003
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My Own Hell
So since the thread about Karpiel has gotten pretty big, here's a new update. When I heard the news, I got on the phone and called the Washoe County Sheriff's office. I also called the Washoe County Clerk to see what bank was in charge of the forclosure. I called them and ACTUALLY he hasn't been forclosed on yet. They said the business was officially started in 1997 and on 7/7/04 they restricted the business which isn't a FORCLOSURE! The gentlemen on the phone said they are working something out and Jan will MOST LIKELY be back up and running soon! Good News for a Great Guy!

So for all of those who bashed him! :eviltongu :eviltongu :eviltongu

I have a Karpiel and I love it!!!! :evil:
 

Tully

Monkey
Oct 8, 2003
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Seattle, WA
That's great news--I would hate to see that company go out of business, and I would really hate to see everyone who made payments on the frame lose their money.
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
1) The original thread/"info" came from town who is notorious for exaggeration and a strong publicly stated dislike of Jan

2) It's kind of wierd you actually did that.

3) Try getting ahold of "karpiel" these days

4) I'm glad you like your bike, I liked my disco too but Jan has shown consistent and sometimes blatant disregard for the people that provided him with his business and the closing of his shop (even if temporary) as well as the bashing no doubt stems from this rather over publicized fact. He makes bikes that lots of people enjoy riding but he was either too spread out to handle his own business or just really didn't care that much about it's success.

Dead horse officially beaten.
 
Sep 14, 2003
23
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My Own Hell
kidwoo said:
1) The original thread/"info" came from town who is notorious for exaggeration and a strong publicly stated dislike of Jan

2) It's kind of wierd you actually did that.

3) Try getting ahold of "karpiel" these days

4) I'm glad you like your bike, I liked my disco too but Jan has shown consistent and sometimes blatant disregard for the people that provided him with his business and the closing of his shop (even if temporary) as well as the bashing no doubt stems from this rather over publicized fact. He makes bikes that lots of people enjoy riding but he was either too spread out to handle his own business or just really didn't care that much about it's success.

Dead horse officially beaten.
1.) I did it because I have a Karpiel and if it was going to be liquidated you can ussually get all of that stuff relatively cheap.

2.) Whynot?

3.) From the times i've talked to Jan he's been great to me and answered every question I had.


This Post is just an informative Post for people who Like/Love Karpiel!
 

kidwoo

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TransAm4eva87 said:
1.) I did it because I have a Karpiel and if it was going to be liquidated you can ussually get all of that stuff relatively cheap.

2.) Whynot?

3.) From the times i've talked to Jan he's been great to me and answered every question I had.


This Post is just an informative Post for people who Like/Love Karpiel!
Don't get me wrong, I always respect people who aren't afraid to take things into their own hands and it makes sense knowing there's a chance his leftovers may be liquidated. I guess only time will tell if he rebounds for real though. What a sheriff's office knows about the business and what Jan's intentions are may differ. I hope for the bike owners' sake, they can still get support.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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This is the worst thing that can happen.

Karpiel can exist as a company, but not with Jan making any managment/business decisions.

Some of the most elemental laws of business address these facts. Bad management needs to be removed, because it is no easy tast to change someones attitudes and beliefs. 99% of the time, it is just not pratical or possible.

Jan gets bailed out somehow and remains in business? It's simply the worst thing that can happen at this point.

History shows that the "oh yeah, we screwed up then, but we got the same people and I promise that THIS time we'll do better!"-theory fails in practice.
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
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Jm_ said:
This is the worst thing that can happen.

Karpiel can exist as a company, but not with Jan making any managment/business decisions.

Some of the most elemental laws of business address these facts. Bad management needs to be removed, because it is no easy tast to change someones attitudes and beliefs. 99% of the time, it is just not pratical or possible.

Jan gets bailed out somehow and remains in business? It's simply the worst thing that can happen at this point.

History shows that the "oh yeah, we screwed up then, but we got the same people and I promise that THIS time we'll do better!"-theory fails in practice.
JM I did know you are also a business expert but it would have been more cool if you kept the Boxxer bashing theme something like the reinstatement of Jan with additional people is like installing the black box upgrade on an already hopeless, 70's technology boxxer - it will still suck.
 

BadMonkey

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Jul 23, 2004
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1. Karpiel's website will be up on Monday.
2. Business students should consider their own experience before giving business advice on how to survive a retail recession that took out an impressive percentage of America's small businesses, right along with the large ones (KMart, UAL). Do your homework and have some years in the fray under your belt before you open your mouth.
3.No one is getting cheated. No one has seized the property of Jan Karpiel or Karpiel Design Ltd. Everyone will get their bikes.
4. Karpiel has moved locations.
5. Jan Karpiel did have his finger severed in an accident. He can not work for another 3 months while his hand is being reconstructed ---that is why he is not answering his phone.
6.Town has no (I repeat NO) insider information. He is not associated with Karpiel at all. He is nothing but a mouth given the opportunity to feel important by peddling rumors and lies and he's going to be damn lucky if he's not slapped with a lawsuit in the next 90 days.
 

Brian HCM#1

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Sep 7, 2001
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BadMonkey said:
1. Karpiel's website will be up on Monday.
2. Business students should consider their own experience before giving business advice on how to survive a retail recession that took out an impressive percentage of America's small businesses, right along with the large ones (KMart, UAL). Do your homework and have some years in the fray under your belt before you open your mouth.
3.No one is getting cheated. No one has seized the property of Jan Karpiel or Karpiel Design Ltd. Everyone will get their bikes.
4. Karpiel has moved locations.
5. Jan Karpiel did have his finger severed in an accident. He can not work for another 3 months while his hand is being reconstructed ---that is why he is not answering his phone.
6.Town has no (I repeat NO) insider information. He is not associated with Karpiel at all. He is nothing but a mouth given the opportunity to feel important by peddling rumors and lies and he's going to be damn lucky if he's not slapped with a lawsuit in the next 90 days.
WHOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
 

zedro

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Sep 14, 2001
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BadMonkey said:
5. Jan Karpiel did have his finger severed in an accident. He can not work for another 3 months while his hand is being reconstructed ---that is why he is not answering his phone.
yeah, my ex-boss would stop answering the phone when people wanted money and he had nothing to give in return, even when he still was in buisness. He also kept his company running to the bitter end, borrowing money from friends he could never pay back, taking material deposits from customers and using it for back-pay, hiring contractors he had no way of paying for after the work was done. But at least he managed that trip to Switzerland before closing up....

sorry, but that excuse #5 kinda proves he's somewhat crooked. Its nice leaving your customers in the dark, without their money, and without the possibility of getting their bikes....err, when? oh wait, he wont answer his phone, so i guess i'll never know....
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
BadMonkey said:
6.Town has no (I repeat NO) insider information. He is not associated with Karpiel at all. He is nothing but a mouth given the opportunity to feel important by peddling rumors and lies and he's going to be damn lucky if he's not slapped with a lawsuit in the next 90 days.

And by not explaining who you are, you give yourself the exact same level of credibility.
 

dhtahoe

I LOVE NORBA!!!!
Feb 4, 2002
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BadMonkey said:
1. Karpiel's website will be up on Monday.
2. Business students should consider their own experience before giving business advice on how to survive a retail recession that took out an impressive percentage of America's small businesses, right along with the large ones (KMart, UAL). Do your homework and have some years in the fray under your belt before you open your mouth.
3.No one is getting cheated. No one has seized the property of Jan Karpiel or Karpiel Design Ltd. Everyone will get their bikes.
4. Karpiel has moved locations.
5. Jan Karpiel did have his finger severed in an accident. He can not work for another 3 months while his hand is being reconstructed ---that is why he is not answering his phone.
6.Town has no (I repeat NO) insider information. He is not associated with Karpiel at all. He is nothing but a mouth given the opportunity to feel important by peddling rumors and lies and he's going to be damn lucky if he's not slapped with a lawsuit in the next 90 days.
Oh give me a brake!!!!
We have heard ALL this crap before.
Now I'm the bad guy. How does Jan keep getting himself in these f'ed up situations and come out smelling like a rose. Just shift the blame onto someone else. This person posting must be Jan!!!
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
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dhtahoe said:
How does Jan keep getting himself in these f'ed up situations and come out smelling like a rose. Just shift the blame onto someone else. This person posting must be Jan!!!
Typing very slowly, I presume...
 

Acadian

Born Again Newbie
Sep 5, 2001
714
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Blah Blah and Blah
dhtahoe said:
Oh give me a brake!!!!
We have heard ALL this crap before.
Now I'm the bad guy. How does Jan keep getting himself in these f'ed up situations and come out smelling like a rose. Just shift the blame onto someone else. This person posting must be Jan!!!
Be afraid…be very afraid…

Might be his lawyer typing this? :think: