What about Tom Danielson? "Next Big Thing..."
Not so fast now eh?
Allez Radio Shack!
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Not so fast now eh?
Man, Tom Danielson was a bust.
But Contador washed up on his shores after the shipwreck that was Liberty Seguros. Situations like that just don't happen all the time. Of course except for Contador who again is a man without a team. Bruyneel has had a lot of great riders under him but they all got sent on their ways at some point. He might be able to identify talent but he doesn't always get the most out of them.
Liberty Seguros, hmm, something seems funny about them...
Saiz
Heras
Vino
Kashechkin
Jaschke
You get my point...
How about everyone who has moved on from Johan in the last bunch of years?
They all seem to get popped...
That's the second part of that equation.
Tyler
Floyd
Heras
Some others I'm forgetting...
Anyone have the numbers that state how much the LAF donated to canser research this year as opposed to last year when Lance wasn't racing.
I don't think your cancer exploitation coments have any base at all.
As for Radio shack, a sponsor is a sponsor. How is Radio Shack any worse lottery or a bank?
Johan is often semi-jokingly referred as belonging to the Belgian Cycling Mafia. Do they get popped once they leave his protection or is it revenge for leaving?
looks like he wants the Schlecks
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/andy-schleck-linked-to-radioshack-team
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/andy-schleck-linked-to-radioshack-team
At least he brings a little energy to the forum and I don't mind an opinion.
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I'm guessing it's 100% revenge.
He has a great mind really, sadly it's all negative energy.
Like ire said, if it doesn't match his opinions he's quick to belittle anything. I for one won't ever have a Spooky. I have plenty to voice my opinion back to Mickey, but don't really think either of us will ever see the other's opinion, so it seems like a waste. I'll just quit while I'm behind.
I'll bet they get some top notch young talent: I.E. Taylor Phinney
Armtrong circa 99-00 was a badass... He was broke(or as broke as an HGH and EPO abusing Millionaire can be), pissed and hungry... It was rad... As the corporate net closed in around him he turned into a profit robot. I don't like those... Then he turned into an "american" celebrity. Those are the freaking worst....
If you guys can't see that people who love this sport, and have loved this sport for more than 10 years dislike him, and his attitude, you need to open your eyes...
And if you can't see that Electrical Engineering nerds wrote off radioshack years ago, let me submit some youtube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AE4V4AXTRkM&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AE4V4AXTRkM&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
Armstrong sold himself to the anti-rational profit and greed machine that is destroying the planet...
Not some capital A "American Icon". I would wager to say the vicious death of celebrity occurred in Texas too... The public believed Osawald was working for Cuba...
40+ years later we don't know who he was working for, but we do know what Britney Spears vagina looks like... And who got kicked off of various Islands... We know that Howard Dean is good at Yodelling, and that various senators enjoy a little tubesteak....
What does this have to do with bike racing?
We can buy all the disposable consumer electronics anywhere we want, literally on every street corner, but Radioshack sees the need to partner up with Armstrong to re-capture the 18-35 demographic...
Cervelo frames are $4000, yet they pay $37 for the frames from the factory they contract to build them....
I don't care what the Neo-Liberals says about a global market, because they are patently wrong. I build frames in the basement of the building that used to build your coffee makers, toilet brushes and toasters... The federal government gives me child labor for free, as their parents don't have jobs. Celebrity worship and disposable crap from radioshack, Wal-Mart and Target are exactly the problem... When I can buy frames from China than less than the cost of buying a good Steak(tubed or otherwise), you know we have serious structural adjustment that needs to occur in our consumer goods market...
This Team;
It's a sham people. It's not good for the sport, It's not good for American manufacturing, and it's not good for the general level of cultural literacy and media savvy the average American consumer has...
I can buy 8 of these machines for the price of one high-end Chinese made road frame/fork.... This machine is worth more as SCRAP than it is as a tool. There are likely 3-4 states that don't even have an electrical outlet I could plug this machine into... But I can buy a sweet RC car for $120 at Radioshack anytime I want to!
Media, Message, Messengers... it all equals Mess-Age as far as I can tell.
What something is Now, and what it used to represent are not co-equivalent... Dissenting is still a legitimate job, and so is being a shill or apologist for the "next-best thing".
When there are US-based pro teams that focus on bike RACING... Like Garmin, why should we give a hoot about some pro team that's sole focus is poorly defined advocacy, self-aggrandizement, and marketing disposable toys?
Pro bike racers, like any other atheletes, if they want to retain their humanity, can draw lines, even parallel lines, between right and wrong...
Those who choose to side with Armstrong are cowards.
If you guys can't see that people who love this sport, and have loved this sport for more than 10 years dislike him, and his attitude, you need to open your eyes...
And if you can't see that Electrical Engineering nerds wrote off radioshack years ago, let me submit some youtube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AE4V4AXTRkM&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AE4V4AXTRkM&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
Armstrong sold himself to the anti-rational profit and greed machine that is destroying the planet...
Not some capital A "American Icon". I would wager to say the vicious death of celebrity occurred in Texas too... The public believed Osawald was working for Cuba...
40+ years later we don't know who he was working for, but we do know what Britney Spears vagina looks like... And who got kicked off of various Islands... We know that Howard Dean is good at Yodelling, and that various senators enjoy a little tubesteak....
What does this have to do with bike racing?
We can buy all the disposable consumer electronics anywhere we want, literally on every street corner, but Radioshack sees the need to partner up with Armstrong to re-capture the 18-35 demographic...
Cervelo frames are $4000, yet they pay $37 for the frames from the factory they contract to build them....
I don't care what the Neo-Liberals says about a global market, because they are patently wrong. I build frames in the basement of the building that used to build your coffee makers, toilet brushes and toasters... The federal government gives me child labor for free, as their parents don't have jobs. Celebrity worship and disposable crap from radioshack, Wal-Mart and Target are exactly the problem... When I can buy frames from China than less than the cost of buying a good Steak(tubed or otherwise), you know we have serious structural adjustment that needs to occur in our consumer goods market...
This Team;
It's a sham people. It's not good for the sport, It's not good for American manufacturing, and it's not good for the general level of cultural literacy and media savvy the average American consumer has...
I can buy 8 of these machines for the price of one high-end Chinese made road frame/fork.... This machine is worth more as SCRAP than it is as a tool. There are likely 3-4 states that don't even have an electrical outlet I could plug this machine into... But I can buy a sweet RC car for $120 at Radioshack anytime I want to!
Media, Message, Messengers... it all equals Mess-Age as far as I can tell.
What something is Now, and what it used to represent are not co-equivalent... Dissenting is still a legitimate job, and so is being a shill or apologist for the "next-best thing".
When there are US-based pro teams that focus on bike RACING... Like Garmin, why should we give a hoot about some pro team that's sole focus is poorly defined advocacy, self-aggrandizement, and marketing disposable toys?
Pro bike racers, like any other atheletes, if they want to retain their humanity, can draw lines, even parallel lines, between right and wrong...
Those who choose to side with Armstrong are cowards.
I think your message might be broader than the scope of the Road forum, but I agree.Armtrong circa 99-00 was a badass... He was broke(or as broke as an HGH and EPO abusing Millionaire can be), pissed and hungry... It was rad... As the corporate net closed in around him he turned into a profit robot. I don't like those... Then he turned into an "american" celebrity. Those are the freaking worst....
If you guys can't see that people who love this sport, and have loved this sport for more than 10 years dislike him, and his attitude, you need to open your eyes...
And if you can't see that Electrical Engineering nerds wrote off radioshack years ago, let me submit some youtube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AE4V4AXTRkM&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AE4V4AXTRkM&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
Armstrong sold himself to the anti-rational profit and greed machine that is destroying the planet...
Not some capital A "American Icon". I would wager to say the vicious death of celebrity occurred in Texas too... The public believed Osawald was working for Cuba...
40+ years later we don't know who he was working for, but we do know what Britney Spears vagina looks like... And who got kicked off of various Islands... We know that Howard Dean is good at Yodelling, and that various senators enjoy a little tubesteak....
What does this have to do with bike racing?
We can buy all the disposable consumer electronics anywhere we want, literally on every street corner, but Radioshack sees the need to partner up with Armstrong to re-capture the 18-35 demographic...
Cervelo frames are $4000, yet they pay $37 for the frames from the factory they contract to build them....
I don't care what the Neo-Liberals says about a global market, because they are patently wrong. I build frames in the basement of the building that used to build your coffee makers, toilet brushes and toasters... The federal government gives me child labor for free, as their parents don't have jobs. Celebrity worship and disposable crap from radioshack, Wal-Mart and Target are exactly the problem... When I can buy frames from China than less than the cost of buying a good Steak(tubed or otherwise), you know we have serious structural adjustment that needs to occur in our consumer goods market...
This Team;
It's a sham people. It's not good for the sport, It's not good for American manufacturing, and it's not good for the general level of cultural literacy and media savvy the average American consumer has...
I can buy 8 of these machines for the price of one high-end Chinese made road frame/fork.... This machine is worth more as SCRAP than it is as a tool. There are likely 3-4 states that don't even have an electrical outlet I could plug this machine into... But I can buy a sweet RC car for $120 at Radioshack anytime I want to!
Media, Message, Messengers... it all equals Mess-Age as far as I can tell.
What something is Now, and what it used to represent are not co-equivalent... Dissenting is still a legitimate job, and so is being a shill or apologist for the "next-best thing".
When there are US-based pro teams that focus on bike RACING... Like Garmin, why should we give a hoot about some pro team that's sole focus is poorly defined advocacy, self-aggrandizement, and marketing disposable toys?
Pro bike racers, like any other atheletes, if they want to retain their humanity, can draw lines, even parallel lines, between right and wrong...
Those who choose to side with Armstrong are cowards.
I think the final drop in the bucket for me was seeing a WSJ editorial today sucking Lance's cock: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052970204886304574308583412140374.html
The man is a lesion on cycling and I wish he'd fade into fvcking oblivion already.
Do your tinfoil helmets really offer the necessary protection in a crash??? Jesus. 
I see some points, but wow, talk about a tirade.
I see some points, but wow, talk about a tirade.
betcha chris horner jumps on board
I wear a skate helmet so lycra porkchops thumb their noses at me.Do your tinfoil helmets really offer the necessary protection in a crash??? Jesus.
I see some points, but wow, talk about a tirade.
Every time suspect posts I feel like I'm reading a dr Bronner's bottle 
this thread is starting to get ugly, confusing and boring.
Really? It reminds me of the time I saw Lyndon LaRouche speak....Every time suspect posts I feel like I'm reading a dr Bronner's bottle
Was he involved in 9/11 as well?
You remind of the anarchist guys I used to skate with...they were all about the system coming down (most of them were homeless). You rail against corporations that provide a product the American people buy. As long as people are willing to buy garbage companies like Radioshack will stay in business. Radioshack is in the business of returning value to shareholders and for the vast majority of corporations that means increasing profits. If you have any type of retirement account then you are one of those shareholders and you are part of the cycle. Next you're going to start preaching that we should be protecting domestic manufacturing through tarrifs....you should go read Drucker and the case studies about industries that received the governments protection....in the end they were worse off because they didn't adapt. You think you are special and against the machine, but I suspect you are much more a part of it than you realize.