Alpine touring skis
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Are you guys on gapless tech bindings?
Edit: the Cruise 10 is intriguing in particular:
backcountrymagazine.com
Edit: the Cruise 10 is intriguing in particular:
Editors’ Choice Ski Bindings
Whether you lock in your heel or keep it free, these Editors' Chocie ski bindings are built to help you earn your turns and enjoy the descent.
backcountrymagazine.com
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well, I figure you have a pair of skis with an example of every model of every manufacturer's binding in ye olde garage
only Shifts for you then?
no. my more-used touring setup has tectons. I really like those. that said my bindings are never the limiting factor, everything is really good these days. I bet I haven't toured but maybe once with those shifts in 2 seasons.
Really good day out in Monarch Pass yesterday. Took a buddy out for his first time skiing backcountry, kept it classy and low angle. But also skied a couple feet of fresh snow, mostly untracked. He gets it now.
We had a group of five, three skiers and two hard boot splitboarders. The only “skiing” photos we got were of the two boarders. D’oh!
We had a group of five, three skiers and two hard boot splitboarders. The only “skiing” photos we got were of the two boarders. D’oh!
did you add moar shimz to raise up the toe to reduce the delta? from what I read here
the Moment-branded version of the ATK Freerider (integrated spacer, taller casting for toe to reduce delta to Look Pivot-like levels) sounds to be just what I'm looking for. don't really care for Evo vs non-Evo as non-actual-DIN adjustment seems to be kind of a waste, honestly.
Moar readinz
A good article in that they show tradeoffs (with arbitrary units admittedly) between three axes of weight, safety, downhill performance
A good article in that they show tradeoffs (with arbitrary units admittedly) between three axes of weight, safety, downhill performance
You makin' me laff, Doc.
you can see why an arbitrary 3-axis system would appeal to my brain's desire to sort the world by this and that ehYou makin' me laff, Doc.
Soooooo many opinions. The anecdotes here re lack of safety on Tectons (!) are concerning.
I should take Nick’s advice:
- find some sufficiently different than current quiver 90-95 mm skis that I’d actually like to ski downhill on
- eBay up some Pivot 12 or 14 bindings just to use their heel pieces
- get a Cast Second Ski Kit and have a shop mount it up (toes of either flavor would be shared between the two sets)
- …
- profit
I should take Nick’s advice:
- find some sufficiently different than current quiver 90-95 mm skis that I’d actually like to ski downhill on
- eBay up some Pivot 12 or 14 bindings just to use their heel pieces
- get a Cast Second Ski Kit and have a shop mount it up (toes of either flavor would be shared between the two sets)
- …
- profit
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Looking on Cast’s site to order the second ski kit I see they have a new Cast 2.0 setup! And its toe piece mounting system looks way better than that on my 1.0 design, which honestly just loves to get clogged with tiny bits of snow and ice when transitioning.
I emailed them to see if I can buy a toe-only upgrade kit, in which case I’d standardize both skis on 2.0, of course.
this write up summarizes my frustrations with Cast 1.0 well, brake locks and all:
Edit: Cast got back to me, and there’s no direct upgrade path for 1.0 users like me. Just buy the whole system. Hmph
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gonna rent this goofy setup (Rustler 10s on Dynafit Rotation pin bindings) and toodle around Winter Park on it Sunday
is your goal to determine how it goes up, or how well it skis in general? No touring binding will feel 'great' on hardpack, but when you're touring you're not likely skiing hardpack. Any soft snow + good skiing and a modern tech binding will be just fine.gonna rent this goofy setup (Rustler 10s on Dynafit Rotation pin bindings) and toodle around Winter Park on it Sunday
how well it skis. to calibrate my foot-meter vs what people write on the internet-meter
I think I see your problem.
I was going to respond with something that supports what Nick is saying, but realized Toshi is gonna do what he wants anyways so I deleted it.
I hear you all
but I want to know how it feels. must know. got to know
then I'll be cured of it
nah, it'll be a different stovetop that I must touch to verify that it's hot as people say it is yo
Just know that if you ski some lightweight pin bindings on hardpack piste and decide you don’t like its feels then you’ve egregiously missed the point. IMNSHO. But also don’t let me or anyone else tell you what burner to shove your meatclaw onto with reckless abandon.I hear you all
but I want to know how it feels. must know. got to know
then I'll be cured of it
It’s going to be a marginal snow quality day anyway
So I will amuse my brain with something novel
Buying Roller Skis
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Fuck those things. Almost as bad as E-bikes. As if XC skiing isn't bad enough in the first place...lets find a way to do it in the summer time too!Buying Roller Skis
Choose the right roller skis with help from our roller ski guide. We explain the various terms of roller skiing.
as forecast, it was indeed a marginal snow quality day. but in the sense of not refreezing except in shadowy areas. mashed potato snow, with it getting pretty grabby and off balance later in the morning.
anyway, I didn't really notice the bindings one way or another after a few turns into my first run. but I did notice my feet and knees were a bit more tired/sore than usual. nothing bugging me now some hours later but did notice it while riding lifts back up.
is this the difference I was supposed to be feeling? while actually making turns I felt connected enough to the planks down below. and didn't break my knee or anything
The only difference I’ve ever felt is on really hard, bumpy snow. Think refrozen groomers with chicken heads. The lack of elasticity is really noticeable on that kind of surface. Wind fuck sastrugi, ice, etc. but on anything you can get an edge in they ski just fine. And really, they ski fine on hard icy stuff too, it’s just like riding a rigid mountain bike with 60psi in the tires down Belcher… just not as comfortable and maybe a little skittery. But you can do it.
Not super surprised you didn’t notice anything that different in mashed potato snow.
And I suspect the sore knees were a result of the mashers. Wife and I skied Copper this w/e and the herky-jerky mush later in the day was *tough* on legs and knees (and back). I should probably get my kid to wax my skis with some warm-snow wax.
I think @6thElement and the missus do that for fun to mix in a little extra masochism into their training routine
We've definitely ridden top to bottom of WR down Belcher on the rigid HT. Likely won't do that again in a hurry.
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The Floyd construction has shut the bike path from bottom of Floyd to CC Parkway until 2027, that's ruined lots of my local ride loops
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The Floyd construction has shut the bike path from bottom of Floyd to CC Parkway until 2027, that's ruined lots of my local ride loops
there's a shuttle you can dial up for, no? not sure if bike racks tho or how long that takesThe Floyd construction has shut the bike path from bottom of Floyd to CC Parkway until 2027, that's ruined lots of my local ride loops
There's supposed to be a shuttle available this summer, but who knows what kind of crappy rack or how long you'll be standing there waiting for it.