I'm not sure Watz has been to WP on a Saturday during peak season in recent years so his advice is dubious to begin with
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I'm not sure Watz has been to WP on a Saturday during peak season in recent years so his advice is dubious to begin with
Orrrr….attend some touring demo days to dip your toes in the water, as it were.
ooh, indeed they do. good tip. assuming my feet are wedgeable into stock shells in the first place
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Bentgate has a wide variety gear for rent including Backcountry Skis, Boots, Splitboards, Snow Shoes, Climbing and Mountaineering equipment.
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I mean... Turnpike? That gets you nowhere.
A friend down here has some pretty damn wide feet and he skis in Scarpa Maestrales FWIW. Like @Nick said, Matt @ Bent Gate is a really solid bootfitter.ooh, indeed they do. good tip. assuming my feet are wedgeable into stock shells in the first place
Gear Rentals
Bentgate has a wide variety gear for rent including Backcountry Skis, Boots, Splitboards, Snow Shoes, Climbing and Mountaineering equipment.
Edit to add: I just looked at Bent Gate's demo page and it doesn't appear that they rent the Maestrale.
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Bent Gate doesn't sell Tectons, apparently. But they do have the Shift.ooh, indeed they do. good tip. assuming my feet are wedgeable into stock shells in the first place
Gear Rentals
Bentgate has a wide variety gear for rent including Backcountry Skis, Boots, Splitboards, Snow Shoes, Climbing and Mountaineering equipment.
I should go in for a bootfitting/shooting the shit session.
Back in 1995, yeah.
Even if I don't end up pursuing this idea, this is fun just learning about the other side of the gear game. 
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I do remember reading about the Warden MNC when it came out.
Shop Talk: Atomic Shift MNC 13 Ski Binding Review - blog.jans.com
The Atomic Shift MNC is a frameless touring binding with some trick features to make it TÜV certified. Both the toe and heel pieces are fully releasable, and your shop can set your DIN when they mount the binding.
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I do remember reading about the Warden MNC when it came out.
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Salomon Shift AT boot in a 106mm wide last? Dang.
JM mentioned it but don't go anywhere without AT MINIMUM a 3 day avalanche 1 class. You live in the sketchiest and most deadly snowpack in the nation.
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@Toshi has ogre feet. I blame the excess of bao buns.
but, we can skin up a few resorts here in the pre-hours, so no risk, just to see if he likes it.
totally agree.
but, we can skin up a few resorts here in the pre-hours, so no risk, just to see if he likes it.
My feet aren't fat! they're just mallets of flesh and bone
The Scarpale RS does sound like a good starting place, as does that Salomon.
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The Scarpale RS does sound like a good starting place, as does that Salomon.
Scarpa Maestrale RS Review
The newest version of the Scarpa Maestrale RS is basically a brand new ski boot. Our entire test team had at least some experience with previous versions...
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I realize that, you can thank me laterin this thread, 6thElement takes on the role of me trying to talk stoney out of devoting his life to karting
Yeah you can do that anywhere. You buy backcountry gear to ski resorts? Rad.
Just tell him where to go. Might as well enjoy an actual hike in nature. You'll find out way more about what you like or don't like on some steep ass sidehill skintrack than you ever will going up a groomer.
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Yeah, like Nick said this would be for in-bounds until I'm properly educated and all. And perhaps never for out of bounds given both what I've read and from how one of my attendings during fellowship died in an avalanche in Park City despite an Avalung and all that gear.
Just take a course as soon as possible. Skinning up resorts is like pedaling up whistler mountain. There's actually some decent mellow terrain around granby that you can get used to skinning on that shouldn't kill you too badly. The biggest thing about backcountry is just knowing what to look for, what you know about the snowpack so far in any season (CO avy center website) and not being a moron.
The whole reason I bought a sled in 2008 was to get away from morons in the backcountry. Ski resorts are moron factories.
I feel attacked, again.
But also, agree with everything you said. Even though I'm occasionally guilty of an early morning or after closing human powered lap of my local hill.
The i70 nutjobs already get up early enough just to get to the damn hills for opening. To me going out in the woods is partly about getting away from that shit. Going even earlier is just nuttytawk. Go see some squirrels. Sleep till the ungodly hour of 6am.
Ahem. These days I leave the house at 8:10a to be in the maze for 9a opening. And our local "safely mellow but still steep enough to make fun turns" zone is about 1/2 mile up from the ski hill, so if I do go early my walking lap is usually there. But occasionally...
That's not exactly correct. How do you know that ski-patrol has evaluated those slopes and performed mitigation on them already?
I mean, if you are talking bunny slopes and anything less than 30 degrees, then sure, but anything more and all bets are off. It kind of takes an avy course just to know what you can safely do without having to evaluate the slopes....
Oh it's ALL ABOUT YOU NOW in the beautiful mountain town of salida now isn't it? Is this thread about YOU going backcountry skiing? No it isn't!
(toshi still has to drive i70, lets us rub it in his face)
and on the dwid note, this is a friend of mine who works a cunty valley usa
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there are a couple of areas that are lower risk, but he'd be best served to see if he likes it AT ALL, then taking his AIRIE1
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This thread is really starting to get good.
did you forget already i have a MOUNTAIN SECOND HOUSE
sheesh
but yes, have to drive I-70 and 40 to get to it in the first place, I suppose. until i get my helicopter
Yeah you know me. That's definitely a thing I forgot. I definitely forget things like that. Especially considering I already mentioned granby a few posts up.
Typical spacey tesla buyer.....
I might actually have some shit for you. What size ski boot do you wear?
Holy shit! You have to buy everything and go RIGHT NOW. This never happens in february. Tahoe is more dangerous than colorado. The angels at black diamond and fritschi want you to spend money like TODAY
There is almost NEVER ‘no risk’, judging from shit that has gone down at ski resorts in the past. But yes, certainly ‘mitigated’.
26.5 x very very wide
Ditto. You should see the shit that passes for the 'ouside bone' of my feet. If you know what the 'lange bone' is, mine goes the whole length. I have some punched 25.5s (you understand this if you're a skier) that may literally be the only other person's boots that fit you.
Size 9 street shoe? If so I have some dynafit boots I can send you for shipping. At the very least you get some tech boots without buying them.
They may be too short. I have little worry about the width because our caveman lawyer lineage runs deep and literally everything I ever buy is too narrow....I'm like a 9.5 4E in street shoes. But I'll risk the cost of shipping
Hoka Bondi 8 in Extra Wide will cure what ails ya for street type shoes. so comfy.
not AT binding compatible tho
Sorry.
Yeah! In your face, Toshi!
Even I’m not that asshole. But we see that guy/gal down here, too… it’s like they bought all the shit just for the exercise and have no interest in learning how to actually ski.
I smell a market for e-skis
meh
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