alternate to taxes?
- Thread starter LordOpie
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I'll tell you how: it can't. Even government employees have to pay taxes, which goes right back to them in their paycheck.
well, that's not completely true. I mean it could operate 'private' for-profit businesses, yeah?
It could, but that's getting out of being a government and into private business. And unless it's big businesses to bring in a lot of money, then I don't see it working.
You mention schools, but our schools are already state-owned, and still have to be federally subsidized just to stay in operation.
Florida has a state sales tax.
High sales tax like WA. When I moved from there it was at 8.5%. There's also other taxes and fees floating around for dern near everything.
Huge sales taxes, less govt programs. TN is 10 cents on the dollar which is very high, plus state healthcare was slashed in half last year.
Also Biggins, if you went to a federal sales tax (I know thats where you're headed) the rich would pay almost nothing %-wise in comparison to the poor. =not fair.
who would want to buy florida.....just kidding. i live in NC where we not only have an income tax but sales tax on everything as well.
naw im not heading there...im just looking for some kind of answers...i mean there has to be a better way.
What are you talking about? Tons of Americans get healthcare. State funded insurance in TN (Tenncare its called) is either HEAVILY reduced or free altogether for the elderly/children.
I'm moving to TN when I get old, break something at Windrock and get it fixed for free. Noice!
Like I said, they slashed a ton of it. I dont think it's totally free unless you're dirt/dirt poor and on social security or unless youre a single, poor mother with 12 kids. Dont quote me though.
The answer to that is a tax rebate every quarter of, say, $1000 to everyone. Just a random number, but that way, the poor don't pay much and the $1k doesn't mean much to the rich.
Nevermind then, a sex change and a lot of adoptions don't sound too fun to me.
so with the federal sales tax the rich would pay less? is that because it would seem like they are paying less since they have so much money? for example....if i go buy a loaf of bread and it has a 23% tax and a rich person buys a loaf of bread the tax they pay is still 23% right?
We spend more government money on healthcare per capita than Canada, France, and the UK do...
Yes, but you have to understand. 5% of the people (the very rich) pay something like 95% of ALL taxes in this country. So if you do it that way, you lose most of your tax income.
That's retarded. All due to increased medical costs because of litigation? Or other factors?
which is strange cause i havent ever been elligiable for any of it even though i live below the poverty line.
well damn ishould talk to them because they are probably tired of paying taxes they dont have to pay as well.
So technically you're not actually paying taxes then either. In fact, you've been profiting at least $300 the last couple years
That's another thread completely, but no...
basics like food would have no sales taxes.
You're going to have to find a source for that...and tell us which tax you're talking about.
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http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/03in03tr.xls
Tax returns with an adjusted gross income of 1 million and up paid a total of 134.4B in income tax, while AGI from 50,000 to 200,000 paid 358.7B in income tax.
I'm not sure if those numbers include SS and Medicare taxes...and if they don't, that's going to be a huge shift away from the top end, due to the cap on SS taxes.
The top 5% according to tax returns is the 100,000 and up earners (approximately.) They account for 61% of the total income tax paid.
It's funny how people complain about taxes and call for things like a "flat tax" that would benefit the rich.So technically you're not actually paying taxes then either. In fact, you've been profiting at least $300 the last couple years
Most people pay little tax by comparison to those who really do.
You have the best healthcare in the world. Stop complaining and start praying. Jesus heals the sick, y'know...
Here's what I found. I was a bit off, but Id regularly heard that. Still, the bottom 50% of the nation pays very, very little.
http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=6
Does that include payroll taxes? It never says...I assume not, but you never know.
I doubt it.
Silver, arent there also alot of ways the rich are taxed that dont fall under "income" necessarily? Capital Gains, etc.?
So technically you're not actually paying taxes then either. In fact, you've been profiting at least $300 the last couple years
no i pay into it for everyone else to use it........has anyone explored tougher immigration laws to help lessen the tax dollars being spent on every service offered by the US government? i mean welfare, healthcare, education and all the other services that are supported by our tax dollars but being flooded by illegal immigrants that dont pay taxes?
Capital gains are included in AGI, and should be in those tables.
i dont care if it benefits the rich. im not rich and never will be so i am looking for something that helps me.
Just out of curiosity, what do you think the rate on flat consumption tax with no exceptions would have to be to be revenue neutral. (That's no exceptions, not on food, housing, medical care...nothing. You're paying tax on everything you buy.)
Or to put it another way, what would you be willing to pay on every purchase to get rid of income taxes totally?
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/reprint/22/3/89.pdf
CN: many factors are involved. a few of them: we have higher pay for health care workers throughout the chain; fewer hospital beds per capita; more fancy tests such as CT/MRI and procedures; probably a sicker population in terms of unhealthy lifestyle habits; along with a a disorganized and administration-heavy insurance system with little leverage in terms of purchasing power.