Am I blind? What happened to the Point One DM thread?
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Mr. Point one sponsored rider prob decided that it was in best interest to delete his e-review.
It was probably the pic of the cracked stem that did it.I never got to see anything past the first 2 posts - did it turn into a flame war or something?
I still love my Point1 DM though!
Just looked like a crack, I fell for it too. It was just polished metal from a crash. You can tell by better inspection of the pic. I was told they've never had a stem failure.
Nah your right, not even a chunk though, just mashed ally, like any stem would.
The PO1NT stuff is very nice.
I just looked at it now. It definitely shows a broken (shreared) stem around the bolt hole, you can see it in on of the 3/4 shots from behind on the opposite side.
I wanted to see the cracked pics. I was thinking of getting the regular stem.
Damn that isn't good. I just bolted one of these stems on and I'm very happy with the height and reach of it. Udi has been running one for awhile now and hasn't had a problem even with a few crashes.
Might be a different pic to the one I'm thinking of sorry.
In the pic I saw, I was sure it was cracked, then when told it wasn't, I looked again to see it actually wasn't.
They're one of, if not the lightest stems available. Any light weight parts should be inspected often for signs of wear. I still have as much faith in the PO1NT stems I'm running, as I did in all the other stems I've run, accept the BMW one, that thing I'd imagine could take any beating.
I only know one guy that wrecks stems(fuknose how), and he's now on a direct Mount PO1NT, will see how he goes.
All direct mount stems are taking a more load in impacts than normal stems.
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this one?
there was another photo?
now im curious
now im curious
looks like it was a hardware failure more than a stem failure. Have seen it happen before on the sunn own brand boxxer stem that comes with the radical. Not very pretty when it happens. In that pic it looks like the threaded part of the bolt is still in the crown and the head sheared off. Maybe the weight weeney was using alloy bolts or something like that.
Yeah that's the one I was talking about. It's not cracked if you look carefully, it's just you can't see the shiny ally, makes it look like a bit's missing.
That stem in NOT cracked 100% sure, just has some wear on it... About the other picture just looks really weird to brake the bolt like that and having the handlebar in one piece, it must be a really super hard crash to shear the head off a steel bolt...
think this might be the picture you guys are looking for.
that stem definitely looks like it has taken some abuse, dents on both sides where the crack is.
it because the bolt was missing or backed out due to vibration!!!!!
The SAME thing happened to my sunline. From what i have seen the po1nt are strong as hell (when mounted correctly). My friend bent two sets of dirty thirty's and the stem is still fine.
Then other one is a chunk missing from shuddling at whistler. The bike is Adam's from MTBR.
the make great stuff and i don't doubt there quality at all.
The SAME thing happened to my sunline. From what i have seen the po1nt are strong as hell (when mounted correctly). My friend bent two sets of dirty thirty's and the stem is still fine.
Then other one is a chunk missing from shuddling at whistler. The bike is Adam's from MTBR.
the make great stuff and i don't doubt there quality at all.
Well, the stem as a whole includes hardware. Sure, the metal might be tough as nails, but if screws are backing themselves out, well, a stem (hardware included) shouldn't do that. That kinda' worries me, to be honest.
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I probably don't even qualify as an armchair engineer, but other than different strengths or materials a bolt is a bolt is a bolt. I don't think you can tweak thread design so that one would be less prone to backing out than another. Maybe point one just needs to provide some documentation with torque specs on how tight those bolts should be tightened?
eh, doesn't look like a bolt backed out so much as sheared off. Somebody probably tightened it too much and the head got weak, then he went down hard and the bar was pulled up, popping the head off and putting too much stress on the back bolt, which cause the very tip of the stem to snap. Either that, or the bolts used were just poor and the thing sheered, which is possibly but unlikely...most bolts are damn strong.
I have been riding mine for three months now not an issue. I have had two hard crashes with not damage to the stem disspite hitting a tree.
yup, that was my thought as well, looks like the front right bolt head sheared off, and ended up twisting around the rear bolt. possibly overtightened and then crashed HARD?
That chip happened at Whistler in a crash. I'm still rocking that stem and I've have no problems. That other one though, nice!
They folks, dh is a sport that breaks things, bikes and people. Understand that and just ride.