American Al Qaeda Cell? Right before the election? No Way! :p
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But then again, all threats should be taken seriously, or who knows what will happen...
Exactly.pnj said:
Is there such a thing as an Al-Queda "stem cell"?
.....and if so what is Kerrys position on it?
.....and if so what is Kerrys position on it?
Tell me again what New Zealand has contributed to the war on terrorism?Changleen said:
Oh thats right, NOT A FREAKIN THING!!!
I'm back you schmuck
I had almost forgotten how much fun it is to argue with you.Changleen said:
There is no such thing as a war on an ideology. This is a war on terrrorists, which is a loosely defined group of people at best, and the more you kill , the more you create. Bush seems to think that if we kill ALL the terrorists everything will be fine, but what about all their brothers and cousins and friends that will hate america even more, Bush is trying to get rid of a bee's nest with a slingshot, he's only gonna make it worse. Resentment doesnt die with the dead. Terrorism is a backlash, not a self existant phenomenon, why dont we try to figure what it is we do that creates terrorist and STOP DOING IT? I dont think killing many tens of thousands of Iraqi's is a very good start.
OH wait I forgot, terrorist hate us because "We love freedom", ahh now I understand, forget everything I said. :nuts:
OH wait I forgot, terrorist hate us because "We love freedom", ahh now I understand, forget everything I said. :nuts:
I went to a conference here at Fort Benning about the war on terrorism. All the big generals and colonels were all gung ho about how the military was going to win the war and kill all the terrorists. Well, damn if a lowly Sergeant didnt stand up and ask that very question. "If we kill all the terrorists, wont that just make more?" YoU want to talk about silence. No one said a thing for atleast 15 seconds. Then a 2 star general stood up and said "You dont understand the methods of fighting we have at our disposal" well to make a long story short, the sergeant asked the general where he'd seen combat and the general replied "I havent had the priviledge of combat yet". The sergeant got up saluted, and said "thank you for making my point" and walked out.
These people that run the government have no idea how to fight these people. They want to drop bombs and use tanks to go out and kill them. But in reality you cant fight this type of war. All this does is propagate a longer war in the end. I fought in Iraq and was proud to do so. but these idiots are clueless.
These people that run the government have no idea how to fight these people. They want to drop bombs and use tanks to go out and kill them. But in reality you cant fight this type of war. All this does is propagate a longer war in the end. I fought in Iraq and was proud to do so. but these idiots are clueless.
It's very simple. Everyone knows what these things are, except, apparantly, anyone who becomes President of the US. You seem to forget when you come into power. Hell, Bin Laden spelled it out in his tape yesterday. Europe have been saying it for ages, as have most of the rest of the world. A certain portion of America seems very determined not to hear it though.TheInedibleHulk said:
For those people's benefit, here it is again:
1) Stop the hypocritical, unjust, unquestioning support of Israel's 'terrorist' actions in the Middle East. Stop calling for freedom and democracy, and human rights with one hand and supporting the fascist oppression and murder of Palestinians with the other.
This goes for a lot of other US foreign policy stances as well, but that is the grand-daddy of them all.
HOLY SH!T!!! Progress towards an agreement has been made on RM politcal debate forums, don't worry N8 will show up and put everything back to normal. Great post and great story genpowell.
Ok, hypothetical situation here.
Regardless of who wins the election......If the POTUS was to all of a sudden say, "Geez Bin-Laden, yer right." and go ahead and stop supporting Israel what happens then?
Regardless of who wins the election......If the POTUS was to all of a sudden say, "Geez Bin-Laden, yer right." and go ahead and stop supporting Israel what happens then?
We cant stop supporting Israel. Where do you think the majority of OUR intelligence comes from about the middle east. As much as I hate to admit it, Israel has had in Intel network set up for the last 4 years there. They have sources that we could only dream about over there.
Changleen said:And your current intelligence is SO GOOD, too!
Yeah, and I hear that the NZ secret police found that sheep herder that lifted that 10lb bag of feed from the local grainery yesterday. Is it true that he was wearing velcro gloves?
Yeah for the civilized nation of New ZealandChangleen said:
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/wpnz/my2200police.htm
it was not until 1975, when National's Ben Couch (for Wairarapa) and Rex Austin (for Awarua) were elected, that Māori were successful in 'general' electorates (as 'European' seats were now known).
It's cool though that you still have seperate seats in your parliment for people of Maori and Europen descent. Almost like......segregated representation.
4 Maori members elected by the electorates represent the Maori in Parliaments. Since 1975, The Maori, including the descendents have the right to choose whether to vote in a Maori or a general electorate rather than before, where they were required to vote for one of the four. People of the tribe hold Maori seats in the Parliament themselves. Most of the time, they will be in the Labour party. Sometimes they stood for general election and were elected. There are many outstanding talented Maori politicians who helped people through their difficulties associated with changing from the old Maori way of live to the new ways of the modern world.
......isn't that nice. They can choose to vote for a Maori candidate for a Maori seat, or they can vote for a European candidate for a European seat.
Seriously, can a Maori run for a seat other than the four designated as "Maori"?
Yes DT, former leader of the opposition Winston Peters was a Maori.
Yeah, you've misunderstood somewhere. There's a few Maoris in Parliment, and they even have their own party, but it doesn't do well cos all the Maoris vote labour. There were 20 Maori MPs in 2002, which is actually over the odds in terms of representation.Damn True said:
Ah, I just found out what you missed. Your link is like 1/2 of the history of that story.
So after 1967 they could stand for any seat, as well as the 'special' seats that were just for them. Today they have their normally elected representatives + 7 seats.
Point is that all Nations have some sort of skeleton in their closet. To say that yours is any different is disingenuous.
Sure, (BYW I am actually English) but why are you so fvcking bent on ignoring your own nations shortcomings(which may I remind you you have a chance to start to change tomorrow) and always finding a reason why it's not as bad as it's made out to be. Your constant retort is "Yeah well it's worse in XXX" or "But so and so does it the same". Dude. That's the argument a 2 year old uses. A rational human being doesn't make excuses, he tries to identify the problem and make it better. Do you really believe GW is a good President?
I do believe that I live in the greatest Nation on earth. Our rate of immigration proves that it beats the heck out of living darn near anywhere.Changleen said:
I believe that on the 2nd of Nov 2000 GW was the best choice presented. I also believe that the US is in better shape now than it would have been had Gore been elected.
He's got a point. Where do you think we would be now if Gore were president?Damn True said:
Also, you ask if GWB is a good president? Well, we dont even know what Kerry would be like, we'll ask the same thing about him is he is elected.