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American Hiking Society doesn't want to share trails...

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  1. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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    In New Zealand bikes are allowed in the parks.
     
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    jdcamb Tool Time!

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    That's because the New Zealand Hiking Society aren't a bunch of Assholes....
     
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    well they can't chase down the sheep on foot very well now can they
     
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    Westy the teste

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    A few years ago I went on a hike organized by some local hiking club with a girl I was dating. We carpooled with the president of the hiking club. On the way home the pres found out I was a mountain biker and let me know that she thought that bikes should not be allowed on public trails because they cause erosion and 'run over small animals'. I let her have it. I pointed out that more mountain bikers help build and maintain trails than hikers, she nor anyone in their club ever participated in trail building/maintenance. I pointed out that cyclists rarely leave the trail. Their stupid club members rarely stayed on the trail, I let her know that all that off trail activity was compressing soil that created an ideal environment for invasive species no to mention 'killing small animals'. Their little hike affected a significantly larger surface area than an equivalent number of cyclists would have. It also turned out that several of her favorite trails were exclusively built and maintained by mountain bikers. I don't know if I was able to change her mind about mountain bikers but I certainly shut her the **** up.
     
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    Almost all of my favorite hiking trails would be nearly impossible to ride a bike on. The rough terrain is what makes them fun. If you actually want to hike on bike accessible trails, you're a pussy hiker.
     
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  8. syadasti

    syadasti i heart mac

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    My club actually decided to make them years ago;)

     
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    I wish. :(
    Mountain bike usage is very restricted in National parks.
    opening up access to trails is on a case by case basis with lots of incredible trails of limits to bikes.
    The Department of Conservation (DOC) who manage all the National parks is slowly coming onside with mountain bikes but it has been a long hard road to turn them from being rabid "No bikes no matter what" to being more open about things.
    The federated mountain clubs organisation (NZ's Sierra Club) has been quite pro bikes though. :)
     
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    Pesqueeb bicycle in airplane hangar

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    Sorry, it was a joke. SS Facebook post about this degenerated even quicker than most topics on teh monkey.
     
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    My response to them:
     
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    They're not talking about hiking, they're talking about walking on a path. These are the same people who gab on their cell phone the entire time they're "enjoying nature" and complain that my hub is too loud as I politely coast past them.

    Hiking is how I check out trails that only guys like Hans Rey can ride.

    Though they're still not as silly as the groups who want to shut down desert trails to dirt-bikes and 4x4s because it's dangerous to hike with them around. These are trails that take me all day to ride on my 450, in the middle of the desert, you think anybody has ever actually hiked the trail from Barstow to Vegas? I doubt anybody has even seriously considered it.
     
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    It is ironic in my neck of the woods where we used to ride in the UBC Endowment lands. There were rough trails and some more manicured ones too but in the early 80's all were welcome to ride run or walk. But the City became more populated and that area now called Pacific Spirit Park became more popular. People complained about bikers going too fast, hikers wanted to walk around with their head in the clouds, equestrians wanted everything because those folks are stinking rich in that part of the City and of course the proclamation that mountain bikes cause erosion. Never mind that a trail by definition is an erosional feature. Now the trails are wide, 2 meters or more nearly everywhere and probably a metre deep in gravel and filter fabric pea gravel highways. Te width of the pathways is way wider than when it was mostly singletrack and the other night I was followed by a ranger on a ****in' 4X4 quad! Two stroke no less. And still the 60 year old bag with resting bitchy face gives me the hairy eyeball when I slowly ride by her and her little doggie and say " Howdie howzit goin'" . The added Irony of all this is the loss of huge hunks of that land to development. Probably won't continue because the area is a park but geez. They whine about a handful of cyclists wearing out gravel paths. They are so manicured and fast now the best fun is to go super fast. I go over 50 kph on one of the downhills which is pretty straight with water bars to launch off. But only at night when no one is in there. It is ironic that mountain bikers don't often complain about having to share with hikers.
     
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    Came up with this, time to share it! (thanks to Dr. Sloth for PS)

     
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    AngryMetalsmith Business is good, thanks for asking

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    Can we take this on their trails?



    I have honestly never understood the statement that bikes erode trails, yet it always seems perfectly okay for horses to be on those trails. Not only do the horses crap everywhere, which you now have to walk/ride through, but they literally tear up the trail and turn it into a loose nightmare of sand.
     
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    I don't get it?? It looks like it implies that we are assholes and we hate you, and that we are going to stomp on you with our expensive Hiking boots and our wealth will make us victorious in our cause. Because we simply hate you godless heathen. Clear as the day is long.
     
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    If hiking (walking) was the best I could come up with for a hobby, I would walk (hike) right off a cliff.
     
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    I&#8217;m not confident bikes should be allowed on all trails. However, I have not given the topic enough consideration to come up a standardized set of rules to cover when bikers would or would not be allowed.
     
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    I rode a couple of private tribal land trails in HI where nobody was allowed without a permit. As long as there is equal opportunity for permits, that seems like the best way to control impact numbers if that is a concern since there is no significant difference in trail impacts there is no valid reason for user discrimination.
     
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    Like if you know people ride bikes there and if you don't like bikes on the trails.... Then stay home. The thing that gets me is that hikers clearly can afford to go to countries that have hiking trails that don't allow bikes and yet they stay here and ruin our trails. Obama isn't likely to use the military to round these jerks up and imprison them. Clearly we have to take matters in our own hands..... Does anyone know how to get a hold of Alex Jones?
     
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    Well, I live near a few MILLION acres of Wilderness, which currently a private playground for hikers and equestrians...at least here, that should be enough for them. But no, they want bikes not allowed in ALL forests....which is just ridiculously greedy.
     
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    Horses shouldn't be allowed anywhere if enviro impact is an argument towards not allowing cyclist.
     
  33. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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    I'm sure there is a fringe that would advocate bikes on all trails. I'm not in that minority. I do, however, think that the AHS is being unreasonable in their stance.
     
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    I do not disagree.
     
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