[blue]

All about being afraid...

The Ghettoest Terror Plot In History
The government got a big talking, broke, and dumb young guy to sell his speakers for grenades. He had no money, knowledge, or pre-existing plot. He was guided all along the way.

By The Polemicist, December 9, 2006
Spare some change for a grenade?

I saw the headline on Drudge Report. "Man plotting holiday terror attack against Illinois mall arrested", it said. An early MSNBC news report (I think Pete Williams broke the story) said that the man was a "lone wolf." Then I returned to Drudge. His blurb referred to the accused as "Derrick Shareef." Minutes later, the site was updated, now referring to the individual as "Talib Abu Salam Ibn Shareef." Fortunately, Drudge also provided a link to the affidavit, which is a lucid, revealing document.

First, it refers to the accused as "Derrick Shareef," and states he is also known as, "Talib Abu Salam Ibn Shareef." He is subsquently referred to as "Shareef" - as in "Derrick Shareef." Drudge, unlike Fox News, saw it better fit choose the secondary name for the accused, not the primary name used by the FBI agent and affidavit author, Jared Ruddy. Why? Most likely because it appears more "Islamic." The primary name makes the individual, an African American, seem like too familiar, or even like a professional athlete. The secondary name makes him seem more like a terrorist. It makes the story 'sexier'. Shareef is not simply a big-talking, angry and anti-Semitic criminal, according to Drudge's framing of the story; no, despite being a "lone-wolf style terrorist," Drudge suggests that the accused is part of the 'global jihad' against America.

Next, the affidavit provides much of the background for how Shareef became a concern for the FBI. There are also glaring gaps in it...

Click link for long (and somewhat entertaining) story.
http://www.altmuslim.com/perm.php?id=1837_0_25_0_C

 

[valve bouncer]

Sounds like Derrick was a big mouth who didn't know when to stfu. He'll get 20 years. Doesn't deserve it necessarily but he'll get it just the same.

 

[LordOpie]

You're an idiot for suggesting that Drudge somehow represents AmeriCa in general. This is a great country and it's people like you who suggest that jackasses like him are the voice or thought of the average person.

Don't let the few, very loud idiots taint your thought.

 

[blue]

I wasn't criticizing Drudge, I know he's an idiot, it's the FBI for essentially inventing a case against this guy. Granted, doesn't seem like a terribly bright individual, but yeah.

And no, America is not a great country.

 

[rockwool]

And no, America is not a great country.

In some ways it was in theory. Pre Patriot Act.

 

[Changleen]

America used to be cool. It can be again. It is a MASSIVE shame that the country that essentially led the world in economics, science and progressive thinking has turned into what it is today.

Like a good looking, genius, athletic Harvard kid who turns into drug addicted religious freak with a serious personality disorder.

 

[BurlyShirley]

America used to be cool. It can be again. It is a MASSIVE shame that the country that essentially led the world in economics, science and progressive thinking has turned into what it is today.

Like a good looking, genius, athletic Harvard kid who turns into drug addicted religious freak with a serious personality disorder.

You think Bush is good looking and a genius?:huh:

 

[BurlyShirley]

And no, America is not a great country.

This coming from the guy who says "contractors" are "scum of the earth"...

Nevermind the fact that term "contractors" often includes doctors, pilots, teachers, scientists, etc... but also many people on this very board are "contractors" of one variety or another. Maybe one day you'll find the way out of your mormon hellhole and see the country and maybe learn a thing or two about this country and its great people. Grow the **** up.

 

[Westy]

This coming from the guy who says "contractors" are "scum of the earth"...

Nevermind the fact that term "contractors" often includes doctors, pilots, teachers, scientists, etc... but also many people on this very board are "contractors" of one variety or another. Maybe one day you'll find the way out of your mormon hellhole and see the country and maybe learn a thing or two about this country and its great people. Grow the **** up.

I think he is just angry because his GF won't let him use her dildo anymore.

 

[Greyhound]

I wasn't criticizing Drudge, I know he's an idiot, it's the FBI for essentially inventing a case against this guy. Granted, doesn't seem like a terribly bright individual, but yeah.

And no, America is not a great country.

:huh:

Have you been drinking?

 

[LordOpie]

Why don't people who don't love this country move to another one?

 

[reflux]

Why don't people who don't love this country move to another one?

Git 'r dun!

I think we should collect all of the freedom haters and move them to Bakersfield.

 

[Transcend]

Why don't people who don't love this country move to another one?

Yes, because it is just that easy to move to a new country and be able to get healthcare, education, a work visa etc.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

I wanna be a pop tart.....so then the world can eat me.

 

[Greyhound]

Yes, because it is just that easy to move to a new country and be able to get healthcare, education, a work visa etc.

Well of course.......as much America-hate as there seems to be spewed over here in this category, anything else should be utopia to you nutjobs. Many of you who expouse the virtues of socialized medicine should be chomping at the bit to get your plane tickets.......

 

[LordOpie]

Yes, because it is just that easy to move to a new country and be able to get healthcare, education, a work visa etc.

they should shut up or put up.

Or maybe America isn't so bad, huh?

 

[ohio]

Or maybe America isn't so bad, huh?

Our government IS so bad, and our cities and states are getting worse by the day. It's not so bad for me yet... but I have the luxury of being able to live in an overpriced city that walls itself off from the majority of the country. If we hit the tipping point and I don't think there's a chance of real recovery (see our education and healthcare systems) you bet your ass I'll move on. I'm not raising my kids in a society that sees science as it's adversary and still believes in trickle-down economics.

 

[Silver]

Many of you who expouse the virtues of socialized medicine should be chomping at the bit to get your plane tickets.......

Yeah, I can't understand why people would want to pay half the amount for better results. They'd have to be crazy...

Must be that glorious American math education at work.

 

[LordOpie]

Our government IS so bad, and our cities and states are getting worse by the day. It's not so bad for me yet... but I have the luxury of being able to live in an overpriced city that walls itself off from the majority of the country. If we hit the tipping point and I don't think there's a chance of real recovery (see our education and healthcare systems) you bet your ass I'll move on. I'm not raising my kids in a society that sees science as it's adversary and still believes in trickle-down economics.

There's a huge difference between the temporary govt and what this country is.

We'll hit a tipping point, IF we have another decade of Republican controlled gov't (all branches).

 

[Transcend]

they should shut up or put up.

Or maybe America isn't so bad, huh?

Congratulations, you clearly have no idea what y ou are talking about.

 

[LordOpie]

Congratulations, you clearly have no idea what y ou are talking about.

 

[ALEXIS_DH]

Congratulations, you clearly have no idea what y ou are talking about.

now, alexis for t3h victory.

YOU have no idea what you are talking about, sissy girl.

 

[kidwoo]

You think Bush is good looking and a genius?:huh:

He meant clinton

soo dreamy

 

[blue]

I don't really believe any country is "great".

I don't hate the US, but it's not my favorite place. I think the over-the-top nationalist nature of our politicians, school system, and society in general has helped to put us in the mess we're in today. I'd like to move somewhere else and see what it's like, but I don't have the means to do so, and it's a far more difficult process than one would think.

Nationalism/patriotism/what have you is bad. This thread is a perfect example of why.

 

[kidwoo]

what's up with the avatar?


pinky

 

[blue]

 

[Secret Squirrel]

It's Pinky and the Brain
It's Pinky and the Brain
One's a genius
The other's insane.

To prove thier mousey worth
They'll overthrow the Earth

They're Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain.

 

[rapp]

Me being someone who's been able to see different parts of the world (not by choice, mind you), I'd say we got it pretty good. Who cares if our children aren't getting the top notch education or our elderly aren't getting the best healthcare? I can sleep here and not worry about rockets hitting my house while I'm sleeping or getting blown up driving down the road. How about AIDS spreading faster than the flu? I'll take what I got now any day over that stuff.

 

[Changleen]

I'd like to move somewhere else and see what it's like, but I don't have the means to do so, and it's a far more difficult process than one would think.

I've done it. Twice. It is hard, but not for the reasons I thought it would be, and I am very glad I did it.

 

[Changleen]

Me being someone who's been able to see different parts of the world (not by choice, mind you), I'd say we got it pretty good. Who cares if our children aren't getting the top notch education or our elderly aren't getting the best healthcare? I can sleep here and not worry about rockets hitting my house while I'm sleeping or getting blown up driving down the road. How about AIDS spreading faster than the flu? I'll take what I got now any day over that stuff.

Comparing yourself to third world countries or warzones might not be the most constructive thing to do...

 

[Changleen]

You think Bush is good looking and a genius?:huh:

:huh:

 

[rapp]

Comparing yourself to third world countries or warzones might not be the most constructive thing to do...

Just pointing out it could be a whole lot worse.

 

[ohio]

Just pointing out it could be a whole lot worse.

You're right. I should stop seeking promotions and just be thankful that I don't clean toilets for a living.

 

[MikeD]

I'm so glad I erased the long rip on that author's interpretation of the legal system which would have been the thread's 2d or 3d post...this is much more fun to watch...