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Analysis: Obama faces Latin America revolt over drugs, trade

Westy

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Would love to see America legalize and tax weed - would put the cartels out of business almost *immediately*.
Except for those trying to sell un-taxed weed.

I wonder what percentage of the "WOD" is fought against weed vs other clearly unacceptable drugs such as the meth.
 

Pesqueeb

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Good. It's about effing time we quit trying to play king maker in Latin America and maybe actually start treating them like people. Our drug policies are a huge part of the reason so many of those countries are crime infested backwaters.
 

dante

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Except for those trying to sell un-taxed weed.

I wonder what percentage of the "WOD" is fought against weed vs other clearly unacceptable drugs such as the meth.
The main point here is that the tax that the US levies on weed would have to be less than the cost of drug smuggling. It's why nobody's growing tobacco plants in their basement and fueling a violent and illegal tobacco war; even with state/federal taxes on a pack of cigarettes, it's still FAR cheaper than growing it yourself or smuggling it across the border.
 

kidwoo

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Weed is 60% of the cartel's profits.

Are there other things like heroin, meth, cocaine, extortion, prostitution, etc? Sure. But take away something that fuels 60% of the profits and they will DEFINITELY be hurting.
Weed is just easier. Gigantic networks of assholes that are well in place aren't going anywhere just because one commodity takes a hit. They go with what makes money. It just means coke, meth........hell......stolen cars etc. will just fill in the holes.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, just that with as established as some of those bidness organizations are, they're not going to just disappear because there's no money in bringing over bricks of shltty weed. They'll just do something else.
 

jimmydean

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Not to mention the Billions spent on law enforcement, court costs, and incarceration for Pot related offenses.
I don't recall the figures from California prop 19, but the cost of LE for pot related offenses was stagering.
 
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rockofullr

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He should reflect first on his own nation, which has a lot of economic and social problems. It's a divided, socially fractured country with a super-elite exploiting the people
Sounds like a good description...








Of Venezuela!! :D
 
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jonKranked

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Weed is 60% of the cartel's profits.

Are there other things like heroin, meth, cocaine, extortion, prostitution, etc? Sure. But take away something that fuels 60% of the profits and they will DEFINITELY be hurting.
Weed is just easier. Gigantic networks of assholes that are well in place aren't going anywhere just because one commodity takes a hit. They go with what makes money. It just means coke, meth........hell......stolen cars etc. will just fill in the holes.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, just that with as established as some of those bidness organizations are, they're not going to just disappear because there's no money in bringing over bricks of shltty weed. They'll just do something else.
not really... imagine a company that suddenly lost more than half its sales. they'd flounder along for a while and eventually fold.

let's assume that 60% figure is right. that 40% in other thing, and i'd be willing to bet that none of them make up more than 15%. you can't grow any of those sales segments quickly enough to compensate for the loss of your cash crop.
 

kidwoo

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Caught this, this morning on the radio.

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/13/164981433/legalizing-and-regulating-pot-a-growth-industry

This feller seems to kind of agree with me. Good listen regardless.


JK: We're not talking quarterly returns in a publicly traded business here. I have a hard time thinking of them in the same terms. I might be wrong but it just seems to me these tards really don't give a rat's ass what they're trading. Virtually disappearing just seems like a stretch.
 
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jonKranked

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JK: We're not talking quarterly returns in a publicly traded business here. I have a hard time thinking of them in the same terms. I might be wrong but it just seems to me these tards really don't give a rat's ass what they're trading. Virtually disappearing just seems like a stretch.
publicly traded or not, you can bet your buttons that the big cartels keep track of expenses and profits. these ain't college kids swingin' a few bags out of their dorm room. fact of the matter, weed is their cash cow. cut if off, and they're out money. people buy it on the black market because they have to. if they could run down to their corner dispensary and pick it up at a normal storefront instead of a dozen phone calls to some shady dudes, i'd wager a pot tax that they would. i know i'd spend an extra $10 a baggie for the convenience.
 
I question if there's much difference between the business model of the narcos and that of, say, Chevron. The narcos have their thugs, the "legitimate" corporations have military, police, paramilitaries, and, by the way, thugs. They both in the end analysis kill people and take their livelihood for a profit. We're just more inured to corporations.
 

jimmydean

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people buy it on the black market because they have to. if they could run down to their corner dispensary and pick it up at a normal storefront instead of a dozen phone calls to some shady dudes, i'd wager a pot tax that they would. i know i'd spend an extra $10 a baggie for the convenience.
:stupid:

Seth Rogan's rant in Pineapple Express about having to deal with drug dealers that think they are your friend, but really you only call them to score weed, not to hang out. :rofl: