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Morryjg

Morryjg

Mr. Ho Jangles
May 9, 2003
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WTF?!?!?!?!?! :mumble: :mumble: :mumble: :mumble: :mumble: :mumble: :mumble: :mumble: :mumble: :mumble: :mumble:

Why is it so f*n hard to change a tire on a RhynoLite?!?! I swear I'm never ever going to get one of those rims again. Granted I was putting on a brand new tire that has a wire bead, but still........ DAMNIT!!!!!!!!! Who wants a used RhynoLite rim???

rant over :nopity:
 
DßR

DßR

They saw my bloomers
Feb 17, 2004
980
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the DC
they're famous for that. Get something with a deeper center channel and it'll be a lot easier...
 
Morryjg

Morryjg

Mr. Ho Jangles
May 9, 2003
905
0
Littleton
So.......follow up question. (yeah...I know....you saw it coming) What rim does everyone like for light FR/DH. I'm not hard core, but definitely ride on the aggressive side and am starting to hit drops and stuff. I ride a Bullit and weigh about 140. It will be for the rear wheel first, but the front will probably need a build sometime too.
 
-dustin

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
7,155
1
austin
i about **** a brick trying to get a MotoRaptor off an On-One rim. i hate that damn MotoRaptor. hate it hate it hate it.

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hmmm...1 beer and i can't type for ****.
 
DßR

DßR

They saw my bloomers
Feb 17, 2004
980
0
the DC
Morryjg said:
So.......follow up question. (yeah...I know....you saw it coming) What rim does everyone like for light FR/DH. I'm not hard core, but definitely ride on the aggressive side and am starting to hit drops and stuff. I ride a Bullit and weigh about 140. It will be for the rear wheel first, but the front will probably need a build sometime too.
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Mavic D521 (now called 721). I can get maxxis tires on and off pretty much by hand, kendas are pretty easy too. They're also relatively light and among the strongest rims out there.
 
binary visions

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,205
1,393
NC
I'll save WestCoastHucker the trouble, and say:

Soapy water.

The tire will slide on and off just like when y-- err.. Easily. It'll slide on and off easily.
 
OGRipper

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
10,762
1,284
NORCAL is the hizzle
Mavic rims always seem to work fine without levers for me. If you hate the tight tire syndrome, I'd stay away from WTB rims, especially with WTB tires, in my experience the rims are a tad taller than most and the tires are a tad tighter, so the combination is a real pain.

And I completely agree that using a little lube makes a big difference, but I just use plain water, no soap needed.
 
8

8it

Chimp
Apr 6, 2003
91
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NYC
Ha, kids stuff. You think you've seen hell try getting a Gazzi on and off a Doublewide rim! I've meet the devil and doublewide be thy name.
Never again, never again!!!!!!!!!
 
Zutroy

Zutroy

Turbo Monkey
Dec 9, 2004
2,443
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Ventura,CA
8it said:
Ha, kids stuff. You think you've seen hell try getting a Gazzi on and off a Doublewide rim! I've meet the devil and doublewide be thy name.
Never again, never again!!!!!!!!!
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Actually the devil was the Phat Alberts that were the pre-runner to the doublewide. Those were a bitch to change, although it was easier to get them off once they were bent to hell after a couple rides.
 
Bicyclist

Bicyclist

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2004
10,152
2
SB
Oh come on, they're not THAT hard to change tires on. And would you rather have ****y rims that you can rip tires off or nice rims that are a little bit of a pain to get tires on and off of?
 
-dustin

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
7,155
1
austin
call me crazy, but i think getting a tire on by hand is about 10000000000000000 times easier than getting it off. ok, i might be exaggerating a little.
 
Kntr

Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
7,526
21
Montana
I have never had problems with Rhinos. Ive ran Gazzo 2.6 and 3.0s. I just put a highroller 2.7x24 on the rear of my wifes Big Hit with a Rhino. No problems.
 
Kntr

Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
7,526
21
Montana
I ran a 3.0x24 on a Rhino 24" rim up front for a year and a 2.6x24 on a Rhino on the rear. I even raced with it. I did the BC Cup and finished 12th a few years ago running this set up. People thought I was crazy but the Gazzos were sweet in the slow techy spots. The narrow Rhino made the Gazzos more rounded and they cornered extremely well believe it or not. I run Minions now and 26s. The 24s just were not fast enough. I
 
OGRipper

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
10,762
1,284
NORCAL is the hizzle
somone in your crew will have water, not as easy as soapy water, but makes it way easier than no water. it makes the rubber slippery and therefor it will slip off your rim........
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Exactly. I just pull a mouthful out of my camel back and drool it onto the tire, works great.

And hey if you don't have water just hawk up a big loogie, that'll make it real slippery... :stosh:
 
bizutch

bizutch

Delicate CUSTOM flower
Dec 11, 2001
15,929
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Over your shoulder whispering
wanna go insane...take a Michelin 2.2 Mud DH tire on a very cold day to Steve at the Michelin tent and have him put it on your Rhyno Lite with one flimsy yellow plastic Michelin tire lever and his bare hands. It's like watching a magic show or something.

I personally always dump a bunch of cheap baby powder in the tire before putting one on or taking it off. It makes it way easier to pop off trailside cause the rim and tire are slick already...no soap, no spit.

Steve at Michelin sets the valve stem at 12 o'clock and then works the tire on from 6 o'clock and moves around to 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock, then finishes at the valve stem. The thickness of the valve stem keeps you from pinching the tube on the last effort.

The trick he does is after the tire gets about halfway on, he works from the ground up toward him, pushing the bead of the tire into the center of the rim (keeps it off the bead and gives you room to work with). When he gets almost to the valve stem, he literally inches the tire on, leveraging just about an inch of tire on at a time. He stops after every one or two cranks on the tire lever and pushes the tire off the bead at the bottom and sides and pulls on it to give him more opening to stick the lever under the bead. It is methodical, but quicka nd effortless. Keeping the bead pushed into the center and pulling the tire around with your hands toward the valve stem really gives you a lot of slack.

Try it next time. Better yet, go to a National and Steve will show you how. (You better make sure you got a Michelin tire to put on that Rhyno Lite or he'll cut you off at the twig and berries.) :thumb:
 
FlipSide

FlipSide

Turbo Monkey
Sep 24, 2001
1,460
930
I eventually found out that the main problem in mounting a tire is often a problem with the tube getting in the way. I used to have a lot of problem with Michelin Comp16 on Rhyno Lite...then on 521 it was easier but still a pain. When I switched from IRC tubes to the smaller Nokian tubes, all problem vanished and mounting any Michelin (Comp16, Mud3, etc) became an easy job.
 
largerthan9

largerthan9

Monkey
Dec 10, 2002
105
0
619
bizutch said:
wanna go insane...take a Michelin 2.2 Mud DH tire on a very cold day to Steve at the Michelin tent and have him put it on your Rhyno Lite with one flimsy yellow plastic Michelin tire lever and his bare hands. It's like watching a magic show or something.

I personally always dump a bunch of cheap baby powder in the tire before putting one on or taking it off. It makes it way easier to pop off trailside cause the rim and tire are slick already...no soap, no spit.

Steve at Michelin sets the valve stem at 12 o'clock and then works the tire on from 6 o'clock and moves around to 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock, then finishes at the valve stem. The thickness of the valve stem keeps you from pinching the tube on the last effort.

The trick he does is after the tire gets about halfway on, he works from the ground up toward him, pushing the bead of the tire into the center of the rim (keeps it off the bead and gives you room to work with). When he gets almost to the valve stem, he literally inches the tire on, leveraging just about an inch of tire on at a time. He stops after every one or two cranks on the tire lever and pushes the tire off the bead at the bottom and sides and pulls on it to give him more opening to stick the lever under the bead. It is methodical, but quicka nd effortless. Keeping the bead pushed into the center and pulling the tire around with your hands toward the valve stem really gives you a lot of slack.

Try it next time. Better yet, go to a National and Steve will show you how. (You better make sure you got a Michelin tire to put on that Rhyno Lite or he'll cut you off at the twig and berries.) :thumb:
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Listen to the man fellas I have not owned a tire iron in years......
its all about technique. not force. if you use the right technique then you will never have a problem pulling off or installing tires. Also you will not pinch tubes :D
 
Handlebarsfsr

Handlebarsfsr

Monkey
Dec 6, 2004
287
0
ct
i have no trouble getting my maxxis mofo dh (wire bead and all) 2.35's on and off of my ditch witch's (oem rhino lites). i only need levers to get em off, i can get em on by hand. i had a 2034802934702398507234x harder time getting my 2.2 hutinchons (kevlar) on my mavic 221's. i was about to kill someone with those stupid things.
 
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