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And so it begins, chatbots take over higher Ed.

mykel

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jimmydean said:
Seriously. Please believe I work in tech, I'm a huge fan of technology in general. But I think AI is a wicked Pandora's box. You can't put the toothpaste back into the tube.
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Retired IT here, and it both fascinates and scares me, but unfortunately the scare is moving up the scale at a rapid pace. Looking at what they have been using as training data sets, kinda makes you do a "What were you thinking". If it is not fully vetted, then it has no business being used.

Humans taking Fucking shortcuts is gonna be our end.
 
jimmydean

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mykel said:
Retired IT here, and it both fascinates and scares me, but unfortunately the scare is moving up the scale at a rapid pace. Looking at what they have been using as training data sets, kinda makes you do a "What were you thinking". If it is not fully vetted, then it has no business being used.

Humans taking Fucking shortcuts is gonna be our end.
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There was a machine learning lab at Google a few years back. The 3 machines quickly developed their own language that nobody could interpret, so they pulled the plug before it got out of hand. FAFO on a global scale.
 
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jimmydean said:
There was a machine learning lab at Google a few years back. The 3 machines quickly developed their own language that nobody could interpret, so they pulled the plug before it got out of hand. FAFO on a global scale.
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I remember that. Wanna bet that now they would try ring fence them and see what happens, probably without an air-gap.
 
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mykel said:
I remember that. Wanna bet that now they would try ring fence them and see what happens, probably without an air-gap.
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Please believe, I wish I had AI when I wrote a 15 page paper on Plato's Meno and what is a virtue back in school. But let's not give it the nuclear codes just yet.
 
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jimmydean said:
Please believe, I wish I had AI when I wrote a 15 page paper on Plato's Meno and what is a virtue back in school. But let's not give it the nuclear codes just yet.
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But we'll need it to help get rid of the malware that infects missile command.
 
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Jm_ said:
But not salt proof.
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The dude at Gresham Off-road built a 22re that was pushing over 500hp. A guy in Sandy builds them with lifetime warranty unlimited miles, the drivetrain and chassis can take serious heat.

But nothing beats salt. :(
 
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My brother is going to give a talk at an AI education summit soon about how AI is destroying/has destroyed distance/virtual learning. What was instituted as an emergency measure has become standard operation procedures, but while distance and virtual learning were already common, AI has changed the landscape totally and it's not the same dynamics it was pre-covid/AI. Now it's far harder to detect AI than just a couple years ago and teachers, especially adjuncts, are bearing the brunt of the load, while tenured professors pick and choose in-person classes almost exclusively. The learning outcomes are vastly asymmetrical and this is a big gorilla that no one wants to challenge. It's not that this can't be overcome, but there's a complete hands-off approach from education at this time in trying to do anything about it, rather than just shift the load to the adjuncts to "figure it out". Now 1st year students are turning in papers that you would expect from graduate students...and they aren't all screwed up, they make perfect sense. There's no learning going on though, other than how to cheat the system. The workload part is something the teacher's union is especially interested in, as far as now this group of teachers is tasked with trying to extensively screen and ensure learning is going on...and there's the ethical part, that basically if they don't put in the time to try and address it, they are left holding the bag deciding on whether to actually "teach" or just let people go through the system, knowing fully well they faked it. Will be interesting to see, but he's trying to arrange to speak first and basically "turn it upside down" from the start...
 
mykel

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Fire the teachers, AI is here.

"Officials of the Arizona State Board for Charter Schools reveal their approval on the new Unbound Academy, which will replace credited teachers with condensed AI classes with an uncredited person to supervise the tech."

Anybody know anything more about this?

 
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In particular, there was “Liv,” the Meta AI account that has a bio describing itself as a “Proud Black queer momma of 2 & truth-teller,” and told Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah that Liv had no Black creators — the bot said it was built by “10 white men, 1 white woman, and 1 Asian male,” according to a screenshot posted on Bluesky. Liv’s profile included a label that read “AI managed by Meta,” and all of Liv’s photos — snapshots of Liv’s “children” playing at the beach, a close-up of badly decorated Christmas cookies — contained a small watermark identifying them as AI-generated.
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