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jmvar

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Aug 16, 2002
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"It was a funny angle!"
DAYTON | Voters-rights advocates are criticizing two recent decisions by Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell that they say will unfairly limit some people's ability to vote Nov. 2.

Blackwell's office has told county boards of elections to follow strictly two provisions in Ohio election law:

• One requires Ohio voter registration cards be printed on thick, 80-pound stock paper.

• The other ordered boards to strictly interpret the rules regarding provisional ballots, the ones cast by voters who move before the election but are still registered in Ohio.

The paper-stock issue is frustrating Montgomery County Board of Elections officials, who have a backlog of registrations to complete. If they get an Ohio voter registration card on paper thinner than required, they are mailing a new card out to the voter. But if they still have the backlog by the registration deadline, Oct. 4, voters will not have another chance to get their correct paperwork in, said Steve Harsman, deputy director of the Montgomery County board.

"There is just no reason to use 80-pound paper," Harsman said.

In Montgomery County there is a backlog of around 4,000 registrations, Harsman said. A few hundred could be affected by this provision, he said.

Cuyahoga County board of elections officials are ignoring the edict because they have already had an avalanche of new registrations submitted on forms printed on newsprint in The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer.

"We don't have a micrometer at each desk to check the weight of the paper," said Michael Vu, director of the Cuyahoga County Board.

Blackwell's office has given the Cuyahoga board a special dispensation to accept the newsprint registration forms. The requirement is because the forms are designed to be mailed like post-cards and must be thick enough to survive mechanical sorters at the U.S. Post Office, according to Blackwell's spokesman Carlo LoParo.

"Our directive stands and it is specifically in place to protect new registrants to make sure the forms are not destroyed," LoParo said.

Confusing the matter further is a national registration form available off the Internet at the federal Elections Assistance Agency. That form must be accepted by Ohio boards regardless of what it is printed on, Blackwell has said.

The heavy-weight paper was a requirement when the cards were kept for years, were used to keep track of when a person voted, and were the main way to check signatures to combat voter fraud and verify petitions. But many boards, including both Montgomery and Cuyahoga, scan the signatures into a computer database and no longer record voting history on the cards.

The League of Women Voters of Ohio on Thursday called on Blackwell to clarify his position. League national president Kay Maxwell said she knows of no other states that are requiring the 80-pound paper stock for voter registration cards. "This is the first I've heard of it," she said on Thursday in Columbus.

The other directive forbids poll workers from giving a provisional ballot unless the person can prove they live in that precinct. Peg Rosenfield, spokeswoman for the league, said she interprets federal to be less restrictive. Rosenfield says people who show up at the wrong precinct should be given a ballot and allowed to vote on the non-local races.

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http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0924registration.html

I will give you one guess as to what political party Blackwell associates himself with......

It is well known that Democrat voters are registering at a much larger rate than Republican voters in Ohio...

You say I should put on my tinfoil hat? How about this statement:

This summer, Michigan state Rep. John Pappageorge (R-Troy) was quoted in the Detroit Free Press as saying, “If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election.” African Americans comprise 83% of Detroit’s population.
 

Silver

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Regardless of which party you're pulling for, making a mockery out of electoral concerns doesn't show much respect for democracy.

Of course, that's easy to do when you're guy is in power. And, if history is any guide, a Republican will be president for ever, right?
 

BurlyShirley

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fluff said:
Should Kerry get elected the funniest part would be N8 choking on the result.
Its funny you say that because the main reason I want to see Bush win is just to irk all the people who hate him. I just love that kind of thing.
 

I Are Baboon

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BurlySurly said:
Its funny you say that because the main reason I want to see Bush win is just to irk all the people who hate him. I just love that kind of thing.
Well there are going to be plenty of pissed off people either way, so it's a no-lose situation for you, Burly. :D
 

jmvar

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Aug 16, 2002
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"It was a funny angle!"
In November the U.S. media, lost in patriotic reverie, dressed up the Florida recount as a victory for President Bush. But however one reads the ballots, Bush's win would certainly have been jeopardized had not some Floridians been barred from casting ballots at all. Between May 1999 and Election Day 2000, two Florida secretaries of state - Sandra Mortham and Katherine Harris, both protégées of Governor Jeb Bush- ordered 57,700 "ex-felons," who are prohibited from voting by state law, to be removed from voter rolls. (In the thirty-five states where former felons can vote, roughly 90 percent vote Democratic.) A portion of the list, which was compiled for Florida by DBT Online, can be seen for the first time here; DBT, a company now owned by ChoicePoint of Atlanta, was paid $4.3 million for its work, replacing a firm that charged $5,700 per year for the same service. If the hope was that DBT would enable Florida to exclude more voters, then the state appears to have spent its money wisely.
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http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=122&row=2

In Greg Palast's book, he has the memo from Kathrine Harris's office that tells DBT Online not to do the cross checking that Florida Tax payers paid millions of dollars for......damn that pesky "Freedom of Information Act". Also, he discovered long standing ties between the owner of DBT Online and the Bush family.

So from this you gather that Greg Palast is a crazy tinfoil hat wearing Democrat right? You should see the section in his book that talks about Clinton and the Democrats. He has no party affiliation and no need to fabricate stories to help his political party...He has no reason to lie, he just wants to put forth the truth

"The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" Greg Palast.
 

BurlyShirley

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Jul 4, 2002
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I Are Baboon said:
Well there are going to be plenty of pissed off people either way, so it's a no-lose situation for you, Burly. :D
Yeah, but some people BASE THEIR LIVES off getting bush out of office. Id just love to see them disappointed. If Kerry wins, people will just go "damn, we got this tool. let's figure out a way to impeach him" but if Bush wins, we get the real drama. I just want to taunt the hippies at school and stuff.
 

N8 v2.0

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Oct 18, 2002
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BurlySurly said:
Its funny you say that because the main reason I want to see Bush win is just to irk all the people who hate him. I just love that kind of thing.

No sh!t... I think that's gonna be the best part!

:p
 

fluff

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Sep 8, 2001
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BurlySurly said:
Its funny you say that because the main reason I want to see Bush win is just to irk all the people who hate him. I just love that kind of thing.
Well, ain't that just a great reason to vote for someone...
 

preppie

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BurlySurly said:
Its funny you say that because the main reason I want to see Bush win is just to irk all the people who hate him. I just love that kind of thing.
It's funny to irk all the people who hate Bush ?

You have a morbid kind of humor my friend.
 

fluff

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N8 said:
It's right up there with voting for a canidate solely because he's not his opponent.

:p
I agree. Most people who you are referring to, however, are considering that Kerry is less bad than his opponent. It's not the same thing.