my read is now they are now permitted to openly be who they are
except those who didn't
correct; it's like "running a yellow light" - no such thing
no, withholding the information was being compliant with DoD policy; outing themselves was a violation
i do not have my own definition, i apply __the__ definition
So are these the dishonorable people you have been referring to?
Ok then (from dictionary.com):
I assume you are talking about #1 in both cases, but I will await your response as to not be made an ass.
What he said.
Butt out! Cant you see we are arguing here?
yep.
i truly hope previous answer clarifies that for all here, but i expect there will some who will choose to infer that i'm bigoted, in spite of the facts to the contrary
Accepted...
Sounds HOT!
Whoa there pal, DADT.
Hmm. By that logic Rosa Parks also lacked integrity. She got on the bus knowing full well that the front seats are reserved for whites. If she didn't want to sit in the back, she shouldn't have gotten on the bus. How dare she break the rules and challenge racism by sitting up front. Integrity does not demand that you accept subjugation. The lack of integrity was on the part of the government by failing to respect human rights -- both in the case of Rosa Parks and the gay soldier.
That Rosa Parks was such a bitch for not getting out of that white man's seat. Is that what you're saying here?
you don't seem to be willing to fully apply all the relevant logic.
so being a gay soldier is a human right, but being a 37 year old recruit isn't?
Comparing discrimination based on sexual orientation to age or height restrictions misses the mark. There are valid reasons why an old geezer or a midget may not be able to fight in the military. But, there is no valid reason why a gay soldier can't serve in the military. The reasons that have been offered in the past are founded in homophobia and are comparable to the justifications for laws banning interracial marriage and segregation. The idea that a gay person has or should have fewer rights than a straight person is both discriminatory and homophobic.
Great Quote. One should also not forget that the United States was founded out of disobedience to the English crown. Yet, few would call the founding fathers dishonorable even if they were traitors to the crown. Breaking the law does not automatically make a person dishonorable.
"the ends justify the means" - anonymous (not the anti-scientology group, but that would also fit nicely into their project mayhem playbook)
how so? these are arbitrary measures that have yet to be adjusted for advances in technology. our most lethal part of our armament are drones, and who better to fly them than a doughboy?
nor is there any reason why a philanderer cannot serve, nor an officer who schtups an enlisted person, other than the military has proclaimed these behaviors (founded in basic human rights, one could just as equally argue) unlawful. it's not unlawful in the civilian world, so why is the gov't violating consenting adults' basic human rights based solely upon sexual behavior?
to the best of my knowledge, she never collected a publicly funded compensation package (to include 100% healthcare, clothing, & housing) for merely riding the bus. but then again, i never bothered to read the inscription memorialized on the bus stop where she boarded that closely when leaving classes across the street (TSUM 93-96)
indeed.
again, if we are strictly speaking about those who self-outed, i am not expressing an opinion, but fact. how else could you possibly explain those members who were prosecuted & discharged without honor for violation of DADT?
nor does it make them worthy of high praise
Can't tell if trolling or just closeted self loathing gay.
