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MikeD

MikeD

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K, so I have a 44/49 zerostack cane creek 1 degree angleset. 1 1/8" steerer tube.

If I want to switch to a tapered steerer tube fork, do I understand correctly that I need to switch to an external cup and a new gimbal? Or is it possible to use the new gimbal inside the existing zerostack cup?

Thx!
 
buckoW

buckoW

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I would get a new lower cup with the angle you want. One less gimbal is one less creak in my opinion. I gave up on the gimbals for creaky reasons.
 
Westy

Westy

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buckoW said:
I would get a new lower cup with the angle you want. One less gimbal is one less creak in my opinion. I gave up on the gimbals for creaky reasons.
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I de-creaked my gymbals by installing them dry then applying penetrating Loctite.
 
MikeD

MikeD

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Obviously I don't understand the system then. I thought they all had gimbals.

Or do you mean a non-cane-creek model?
 
Westy

Westy

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MikeD said:
Obviously I don't understand the system then. I thought they all had gimbals.

Or do you mean a non-cane-creek model?
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Cane Creek, and some others I believe, use gymbals to let the bearings align with the steerer. Others are hard machined for a range of steerer lengths.
 
MikeD

MikeD

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righto, just sounded like there was a CC model without gimbals from what he said so I was confused. Got it now, thx!

Trying to install a non-gimbal 1 1/8 variant on my hardtail, actually, and it's binding in one direction and I'm super annoyed...not that the design is at fault mind you.
 
buckoW

buckoW

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Is the headtube within the recommended length for the headset you got? Or it could be that the cups aren’t aligned or the races and bearings are not compatible (36* vs 45* bearings). Those are some of the reasons I have had bonding in the past on these headsets. Do you have a Works Components 1 1/8 angle set? Those are usually shipped with good bearings so I am thinking it is alignment or a length issue.

Does the dust cap clear the headset cup when tightened down? The Works ones sometimes need a micro shim to get the dust cap to clear the cup.

Good luck!
 
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