Hi, my name is FIREFOX and I'm happy to meet you. Please also get to know my good friend, ADBLOCK . You will find us to be among your closest companions while travelling the dangerous and sometimes annoying paths of the internet.sanjuro said:The new crop of banner ads with the annoying sound effects, like flies and frogs, are horrendous. I can't even stop them from making the sound.
Yeah, annoying as they are, the ads pay for the site. I'm not supposed to encourage clicking on ads, but I'm sure as a consumer you can decide about that.MikeD said:RM, if we have Firefox blocking things, it hurts your revenue? If we click on banner ads occasionally, does that make up for things?
Wow, I had know idea that the advertisers knew they were being blocked, anymore than the company that puts up a billboard knows how many people choose to read it...it's Internet magic!Ridemonkey said:Yeah, annoying as they are, the ads pay for the site. I'm not supposed to encourage clicking on ads, but I'm sure as a consumer you can decide about that.
Well, the advertiser doesn't know he's being blocked, but if RM is getting paid based on banner impressions (vs. banner clicks), every time a banner is blocked, it's X amount less money he gets.MikeD said:Wow, I had know idea that the advertisers knew they were being blocked, anymore than the company that puts up a billboard knows how many people choose to read it...it's Internet magic!
I believe the ad is still downloaded and the HTML is prevented from loading on the screen. So RM can keep his revenue.binary visions said:Well, the advertiser doesn't know he's being blocked, but if RM is getting paid based on banner impressions (vs. banner clicks), every time a banner is blocked, it's X amount less money he gets.
Come to think of it, I guess it depends on how the ad-block programs work. If it simply prevents the ad from being displayed (that is, it still goes out and retrieves the ad but doesn't put it on the screen), then RM still gets paid for that impression. If it actually snips the banner out of the page HTML that it downloads, though, RM won't get the $$... Anyone know specifically how those programs work?
Seems like a waste of bandwidth to download the image and not show it. I'd think a smart programmer would just snip the entire image link right out of the source HTML before the page loads.Buck Fever said:I believe the ad is still downloaded and the HTML is prevented from loading on the screen. So RM can keep his revenue.
different adblockers work different ways. adblock doesn't download iirc, but pithhelmet, which is for safari on macs, acts as a proxy, so ads are downloaded but not forwarded from the local proxy to the browser itself. (this is why pithhelmet is slow and why i don't use it any more.)binary visions said:Seems like a waste of bandwidth to download the image and not show it. I'd think a smart programmer would just snip the entire image link right out of the source HTML before the page loads.
The latest dev-branch already includes:
* Blocking filtered-items before they load
Hey RM- was this a harbinger of things to come or just a snappy retort?Ridemonkey said:Buck Fever - since those ads pay for the operation of this site - I'm sure you will be one of the first ones in line to purchase a premium, ad free mebership later this year. Thanks.
I might be down with kicking in some $$$ in exchange for ad-free ridemonkey. I would rather let you administer me not seeing ads. :eviltonguRidemonkey said:If I can figure out what network they are coming from. I'll turn them off.
Buck Fever - since those ads pay for the operation of this site - I'm sure you will be one of the first ones in line to purchase a premium, ad free mebership later this year. Thanks.
Both :dancing:llkoolkeg said:Hey RM- was this a harbinger of things to come or just a snappy retort?
You ever tried selling an ad to a bike company? I certainly appreciate our current and past advertisers, but the bike industry in general is insane.berkshire_rider said:On a (sort of) related note........I'll bet most of us wouldn't block the ads on RM if they were even remotely relevant to our interests. We might even click-through on some of them if they interested us.
I can stand the ads... its the sounds that bother me.sanjuro said:The new crop of banner ads with the annoying sound effects, like flies and frogs, are horrendous. I can't even stop them from making the sound.
golgiaparatus said:I can stand the ads... its the sounds that bother me.
Gonna get me busted one of these days.
BTW if I see that damn spy walking around, that friggin robber, or even the damn roach, I always shoot/squash his/its ass. Ive even done it several times in a row just for $hits and giggles, helps revenue eh, glad I could be of assistance.Ridemonkey said:Yeah I emailed the ad network and requested that all ads with sound be removed.
And very snappy it was. I'm so happy you're here to make such clever remarks AND to save us from our dirty posting habits.Ridemonkey said:Both :dancing:
Me toogolgiaparatus said:I can stand the ads... its the sounds that bother me.
ALEXIS_DH said:so, RM get revenue from the ads no matter where the viewer is located?? or only for those hits within geographical market reach of the advertiser???
make sense now why i see so many ads with the "wanna live in the US, get your green card"....Ridemonkey said:A lot of the ads are geo-targetted on delivery, so if you see them, they have already determined you are in the target audience.
No, the ad impression is NOT loaded, so no ad views are tabulated. DO you think the ad publishers are stupid?Buck Fever said:I believe the ad is still downloaded and the HTML is prevented from loading on the screen. So RM can keep his revenue.