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I, for one, welcome a second term of our Kenyan Overlord. Discuss.
I, for one, welcome a second term of our Kenyan Overlord. Discuss.
Anti-colonialist Bolshevik Muslim Seeks Second Term
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I'd blame you if we had another Nader-situation, but since you're in NY your vote doesn't count anyway...
Afraid I'm not catching the reference.
I gotta agree with Toshi on this one. Though its very early still, I'm certainly not going to vote for which ever mouth breathing tard the republicans put up, but I would very much like to see any sort of even half-viable 3rd party candidate. I'm only voting for Obama this go around if it comes down to him vs a tea bagger.
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George W. Bush cured me of the "they're both the same, I'm voting for a 3rd candidate" mentality. If you honestly think that we'd be in the same position that we're in now if McCain/Palin had won, go vote 3rd party... As for me I'll vote for the lesser of the two evils.Afraid I'm not catching the reference.
I gotta agree with Toshi on this one. Though its very early still, I'm certainly not going to vote for which ever mouth breathing tard the republicans put up, but I would very much like to see any sort of even half-viable 3rd party candidate. I'm only voting for Obama this go around if it comes down to him vs a tea bagger.
Dear Tyler Durden,
Where are you? Someone needs to press the reset button. Mario keeps falling down the pit.
Where are you? Someone needs to press the reset button. Mario keeps falling down the pit.
But its not two evils. Its the same corporate plutocracy split by advertising agency affiliation.
I *think* Jon is joking, but part of me is starting to believe that what he suggests might actually be the only real choice left.
Yep, I've decided to become a full-on Obama defender.
I think he is doing a better job than most of my liberal brethren, mostly because I am a moderate. However, if I hear more whining about how Obama is not liberal enough, then I usually say, "Pawlenty/Huckabee/Romney/Bachmann for 2012!"
Even though all of my friends are going to vote for Obama again, the real problem is undecideds, and all the criticism by both sides could create enough of a poor image than a Republican slips in.
Undecideds or "stay at homes". I mean, seriously, you have someone like Pesqueeb stating:
And it's like people forgot the 8 years under GWB. I mean, I close my eyes every once in a while and picture how this would be if McCain/Palin had won......... Guantanamo would still be open. We probably would have had BIGGER tax cuts for the wealthy / bigger budget deficits. Unemployment would be higher. We'd probably be fully at war with Iran, Yemen, Libya and Sudan. Etc.Pesqueeb said:
Do I support everything BO's done? Nope. Would I vote for him in the primary if there were more reasonable candidates? Probably not. Will I vote for him over whatever Palin/Romney/Pawlenty/Huckabee/Jindal/etc candidate the GOP decides to put up? Oh HELL YEAH.
not a matter of if, just when, we will get our class war.
As opposed to the half-assed wars were fighting there now? I agree with your statement about voting for him over the (R)assclowns, and what I was saying is that if there were more reasonable candidates I would vote for them over Obama. But I'm tired of the constant Democratic capitulation to the retards on the right. The Tea Baggers have moved so far fvcking right that when "Mr. Moderate" meets them in the "middle" were still regressing to 1950's cold war McCarthyism, and Jim Crowe. And I'll stand behind my corporate plutocracy statement. Neither party gives two flying fvcks about what happens to the middle class of this country because they are too busy whoring themselves out to their associated corporate pimps so that they can cement "consulting" positions at Goldman or various "think tanks" post politics.
I heard something on NPR the other day, don't remember what program, to the effect that pretty much every major revolution has been proceeded by the sort of gross wealth split like we see today. French Revolution, Bolshevik Revolution, etc.
The class war has been running for at least 30 years. The rich are winning...
Yep, America...Land of the Greed.
Until our society starts taking a more pragmatic approach to identifying and solving problems we're screwed. Between the Tea-tards, blissfully blind liberals, and the greed of those in upper and upper-middle class who mull about like they are in a life-sized game of "Monopoly" and "LIFE" I don't see how anything is going to change.
At this point my last hope is that groups of scientists and physicists infiltrate one of the two parties all Manchurian Candidate style.
I'm with you. If someone is a significantly more viable candidate as a 3rd party option they get my vote. I'd feel better knowing that I would be expediting the whole process of this house of cards falling upon itself.
when in doubt....i vote for the delicious ham sandwich.Afraid I'm not catching the reference.
you've never heard of this?
try it....you'll love it.
Just look at the South.
typical north easterner......we love black people....only to buy up their neighborhoods and move them out....make room for the rich white folk.
I rent
Maybe you read one of the 100 posts in PAWN saying the same crap.
Yeah it's fun to talk about but I hope that no one on here actually believes we are headed towards revolution.
This intrigues me. Tell me more.
Nope, definitely on the radio. I believe its more possible now than its ever been previously in my life time.
Whether thats good, bad or indifferent I can not say for certain.
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Egypt wasn't due for a revolution for another 20 years.
Somebody read my post on NPR? I'm suing for copyright violation....This intrigues me. Tell me more.
Nope, definitely on the radio. I believe its more possible now than its ever been previously in my life time.
How many people do you know who are so pissed that they are ready to give a go at overthrowing the government (not just talk about it and have a d!ck waving contest)?Nope, definitely on the radio. I believe its more possible now than its ever been previously in my life time.
Sure Amerikans love to bitch and moan but I think when people take a serious look at their situation they realize they have it pretty good. Even the people I know who lost jobs or have underwater mortgages are still managing.
I think you guys underestimate how bad stuff was before the French/Bolshevik revolutions.
Start comparing when Obama enacts "emergency law" and rules for 30 years.
You should look into that.
the media brainwashing can only last so long. have you seen the ratings for fox news lately?
he's not evil enough, yet alone smart enough, to pull that off
It's funny to see how upset people are over Obama's actions as president. During the general election he portrayed himself as a centrist. As president, he has been exactly that. While he has disappointed me in many, perhaps most, ways... just think of the alternative. Same stuff except seasoned with prayer in schools, curtailing of abortion rights, increased denuding of natural resources, etc. etc.
IMO, and this is purely MO since I have nothing to back this up, I think once he doesn't have to worry about being re-elected you'll see a much more "liberal" Obama.
Edit: BTW, don't discount how much joy you'll get watching the teabaggers' collective heads explode with another Obama win.
IMO, and this is purely MO since I have nothing to back this up, I think once he doesn't have to worry about being re-elected you'll see a much more "liberal" Obama.
Edit: BTW, don't discount how much joy you'll get watching the teabaggers' collective heads explode with another Obama win.
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have u seen the bit about huckabee wanting to indoctrinate all americans into christianity at gun point?
i avoid hearing anything he has to say at all costs.
They've already conceded the radical secular islamic atheist vote.
Referenced here:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241280
Zero comments surprisingly.
I am unfamliar witht teh works of Bukowski. Guess thats why I missed it. I'll look next time I'm in the book store.
IMHO I think people have lost perspective on how far the scale has moved. Obama being a centrist today pretty much makes him a moderate republican from 1982. The Right has moved so far right as to be off the map, meeting them in the middle still puts you squarely in the capital of retard-land. I don't see that as progress.
I hope your right about the second term liberal because he so far hasn’t been a first term one.
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yeah! I mean WTF! I thought at least somebody would bite...
I think that is the only thread I have ever started that got nothing. I think I might need to get a little more radical with my titles.
Just grab a couple books at random.
How this guy ever got published is beyond me, but I've read all the books I own at least twice. Freaking hilarious and Im not sure they're supposed to be.
This. Big part of why I am getting a gun and learning how for make our own food and hunt. When the going gets nasty, I want to get the hell out of dodge.
Aight......let's get to work....yeah! I mean WTF! I thought at least somebody would bite...
Haha...
I'm voting for Guilliani!