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Tenchiro

Attention K Mart Shoppers
Jul 19, 2002
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I am serious you have to hand it in and put on a skirt if your using cosmetics. :nope:

June 28, 2004, 9:02PM

Men's cosmetics put a new face on masculinity
By DANIEL J. VARGAS
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle


Blake Smith is a modern man, and in this manicure-pedicure, metrosexual era he feels comfortable using eye gel to reduce puffiness and dark circles, and a face scrub to exfoliate dead skin cells, as part of his morning regimen.

Occasionally the pop singer, who was raised in Houston, dabs a little concealer to hide blemishes and pats some anti-shine powder on his face when he's preparing for a live performance.

"If it's going to make you look better, very few people would shy away from actually enhancing their appearance," reasons the 35-year-old who now lives in Nashville, Tenn.

It's not new that men -- and manly men, at that -- have dabbled in the art of cosmetics. (Most guys probably have borrowed their mothers' concealer to hide that untimely mountain of a zit at some point in his life.) What is new, though, are lines of cosmetics developed and packaged specifically for the XY crowd: Tout Beau Tout Propre from Jean Paul Gaultier, XCD (ex-CEED) from King of Shaves, 4VOO and Menaji Skincare. And the selection of products may surprise or delight you:

Mascara. Eyeliner. Lipstick. (That's right, we used the L-word.)

Of course, these products are not called by those names. In the emerging world of men's cosmetics, they are lash-styling glaze, eye pen, nail pen and lip balm/lip agent. And makeup isn't called makeup; it's "men's enhancement products."

"The M-word is out of the question; we don't use it at all," says Michele Probst, who developed Menaji about seven years ago. "The M-word just terrified men."

As a professional makeup artist, she was using women's cosmetics and theatrical products on men. The products, however, weren't suited for men's skin, which is about 20 percent tougher. So Probst developed her line of products that are masculine and easy to use and give instant, unrecognizable results.

"Guys are wearing it in the gym. It's that undetectable," Probst says, adding that military officers, entertainers including Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw, pro athletes, politicians and, yes, even women have taken a shine to the products.

Some men can be skittish when it comes to cosmetics. So manufacturers give their products more masculine-sounding names ("confidence corrector" versus concealer) and package them in more masculine colors such as black, brown and dark orange. One product -- a dual eyeliner and concealer -- is even disguised as a black pen.

Along the way, Probst has learned some things about men. Like you have to spell things out for them. For example, with the eye gel, instructions tell men to "close your eyes" before applying. Also, most men did not know what a tester product was.

"We had to put `Try me' on it," Probst says.

And men, she says, don't care if the product wasn't tested on animals, so that declaration has been eliminated from the label.

Industry estimates gauge men's grooming products to be a $7.7 billion business, according to Packaged Facts, a publishing division of MarketResearch.com. By 2008, sales will hit $10 billion. How much of that is spent on "enhancement products" is unknown, but companies are betting it's a gold mine.

NPD Beauty, a division of the marketing information company NPD Group, tracks the sales of men's skin-care products sold only in U.S. department stores. Though it doesn't reflect all sales of men's skin care, its numbers do show a flourishing trend, from $46 million in sales in 2001 to $52 million in 2003. Menaji also is seeing robust figures, growing 70 percent in sales from 2002 to 2003.

Men are easing over to cosmetics because they're beginning to understand increased societal pressures of appearance both at work and in their personal lives, cosmetics industry experts say.

"Let's face it, we live in an era when looking good is important," says Marek Hewryk, founder and co-owner of Toronto-based 4VOO men's cosmetics. "Right now, young women want men to look good -- clean, shaven, wearing nice clothes. Women have higher expectations for men.

"A year or two ago it was the `makeover.' Now we have the `extreme makeover.' "

During focus-group discussions on 4VOO, men confessed to using women's cosmetics to combat blemishes and oily skin, a major problem for men because they have larger pores. Oily skin, Hewryk says, gives off an unsightly sheen that often is wrongly associated with nervousness and sweating.

Herwryk says the time is perfect for men's cosmetics.

Gender roles are more relaxed. Younger people are more progressive (take the metrosexual movement and the popularity of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and other makeover shows). And frankly, we're living in a time when youth and flawless beauty are coveted.

So men are being nudged to look better, says Hewryk, who is an applied chemist and biologist.

"I'm surprised the face was the last castle to be conquered," he says, discussing how for years men have been coloring their hair or undergoing hair transplants to look younger.

"Are you less of a man than you were before because you put on eyeliner? No," he says. "People pay too much attention to those external attributes."

Smith, the pop singer who has used Menaji for more than a year, agrees.

"I think if (men) tried it, the effect would be very positive. They would be hooked," he says.

Men and cosmetics are hardly strangers.

Centuries ago European men wore wigs and powdered their faces. The same is true of America's Colonial forefathers.

"This is nothing totally, totally new," Hewryk says.

Still, don't expect to see men getting makeup lessons in the middle of a fluorescent-lighted department store. Men, the experts say, don't want any fuss or attention -- just some discreet help.

"Men will go to the stores and purchase (the products) if the environment is right," Hewryk says. "So it has to be in a more private setting."

The products, Menaji's Probst says, also must be easy to use and reasonably priced. The Menaji line is available primarily but not exclusively via the Internet. The Jean Paul Gaultier line can be found in select Macy's, and King of Shaves products are carried at CVS Pharmacy.

"Men don't want to add steps to their routine," Probst says. "They will walk away from something if they don't think they'll be good at it."

But so far they're streaming into CVS stores to purchase the XCD products, although the company does not release sales figures.

"It's been great. The line is certainly meeting our expectations," says Todd Andrews, CVS spokesman. "Men's skin care is growing at a double-digit rate."

Shelf space for those products quadrupled from February to March at CVS stores, says Andrews, adding that most purchasers of XCD products are younger men.

Probst believes that as men become more familiar with the products, they also will be open to using them.

"Men will be wearing more color -- using tanning gels, colored lip products and wearing mascara," Probst predicts. "The future is going to be more accepting.

"It's not going to be a big deal at all."

But even Smith, who isn't shy about using a little concealer or anti-shine powder, has his cosmetics limits. When asked about a lip agent (lipstick), the pop singer said: "I would not consider it."

Baby steps, guys. Baby steps.
 

bomberz1qr20

Turbo Monkey
Nov 19, 2001
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1) Soap

2) Water

3) Toothbrush

4) Baking soda or maybe toothpaste

5) Razor

6) Shaving cream or just soap

7) Occasional deodorant, but only out of respect for the relatives, in the summer time.

8) Diagonal cutters (dual purpose - bike cables and fingernails)

9) Cut hair as needed. No more than $12.00, or cut it yourself with clippers


Anything additional and you're an impractical candy-ass.
 

Ciaran

Fear my banana
Apr 5, 2004
9,841
19
So Cal
No..... Just plain No.

Sausage club? Errrr... uhhh... no. No club for my wienie. He's kinda a loner amongst wienies. Does his own thing... goes it alone... no help needed, lone gunman... well, you get it.
 

dh girlie

MISS MISSY (geek)
This metro sexual thing is freakin hysterical...My friends and I were snowboarding in Tahoe, and there were these three guys in the hotel room next to us...we ran into them later at one of the casinos and this one guy tried to convince us all night how he was not gay, but metro sexual...he wore some tight sweater, low rise jeans, bowling shoes and hosted mens radio show in Canada...it was something like a talk show about hair gel and low rise jeans and men getting manicures and pedicures...I think this whole Metro-sexual thing started up there in Canada....
 
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Hell I wear low rise jeans...

And men, she says, don't care if the product wasn't tested on animals, so that declaration has been eliminated from the label.

lol!
 

Craw

Monkey
Mar 17, 2002
715
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Speaking of "sausage clubs", when I used to work at Sega in SF. I used to take the Harrison St. exit off the bridge. And across the way on the corner of Harrison St, there was this place called "A Man's Place".

You know, just a place where a man can be a man. I'd see a bunch of dudes hanging out the front boozing at like 6:30 am. Playing cards, eating hamburgers. You know, being men.

I can picture the scenario. It's 5 am. Wife nagging. nag nag nag. The husband, tired from all the nagging thinks to himself; "hmm where can I go at 5 am to get away from all this naggin?", and it hits him! "A Man's Place!".

"Yeah A Man's Place. I'm a man, so it's gotta be the place for me!" and off he goes.

I could never really tell if it was a homeless shelter, a hangout for gays, or whatever.

But it was always funny to see a bunch of dudes drinking at 6:30 am, just being men, you know, arm wrestling, and talking about football and broads. Like Lita Ford or something.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
56,016
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Sleazattle
I was in a CVS last month getting some razors. In the same aisle they had tinted facial moisturizer for men. In otherwords makeup. I then spat on the ground, scratched my ass, farted and burped to make a point.
 

-BB-

I broke all the rules, but somehow still became mo
Sep 6, 2001
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Livin it up in the O.C.
dh girlie said:
This metro sexual thing is freakin hysterical...My friends and I were snowboarding in Tahoe, and there were these three guys in the hotel room next to us...we ran into them later at one of the casinos and this one guy tried to convince us all night how he was not gay, but metro sexual...he wore some tight sweater, low rise jeans, bowling shoes and hosted mens radio show in Canada...it was something like a talk show about hair gel and low rise jeans and men getting manicures and pedicures...I think this whole Metro-sexual thing started up there in Canada....
How did he try to convince you? an Arse -grab or a big old smooch.
That would have done it.
:nuts:
 

llkoolkeg

Ranger LL
Sep 5, 2001
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in da shed, mon, in da shed
dh girlie said:
This metro sexual thing is freakin hysterical...My friends and I were snowboarding in Tahoe, and there were these three guys in the hotel room next to us...we ran into them later at one of the casinos and this one guy tried to convince us all night how he was not gay, but metro sexual...he wore some tight sweater, low rise jeans, bowling shoes and hosted mens radio show in Canada...it was something like a talk show about hair gel and low rise jeans and men getting manicures and pedicures...I think this whole Metro-sexual thing started up there in Canada....
Amen sistah!

What cracks me up is how they try to make masculine things that are diametrically NOT. "These are skincare products FOR A MAN." "_____ is how A MAN does body wash." They can get Barry Fvckin White to read the ad and it still boils down to we in cosmetics have saturated the market for females and now we need to convince men to emasculate themselves so we can get richer. Resist the urge, ye borderline femmes! Give in now and you'll be using a tightly wrapped ace bandage to conceal your offending sackages before long. :nope:
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
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Nilbog
dh girlie said:
This metro sexual thing is freakin hysterical...My friends and I were snowboarding in Tahoe, and there were these three guys in the hotel room next to us...we ran into them later at one of the casinos and this one guy tried to convince us all night how he was not gay, but metro sexual...he wore some tight sweater, low rise jeans, bowling shoes and hosted mens radio show in Canada...it was something like a talk show about hair gel and low rise jeans and men getting manicures and pedicures...I think this whole Metro-sexual thing started up there in Canada....

So i own that outfit as well, and i still ride like a motherphucker. its all about the ladies :eviltongu
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,165
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I was appalled myself when I went to pick up razors a few weeks ago. I usually don't pay much attention to the aisle - I know what I want, so I grab it and leave. But they re-arranged it, so I had to look more carefully, and what do I see?

"Gillette exfoliating face scrub with moisturizers"

I did a double take, thinking I had read it wrong. But no, there it was again.

Exfoliating. Scrub. Moisturizers. And it had a man's face on the label.

So I started looking a little closer, and noticed that the thing I love about the men's aisles in stores like this, was gone. They used to be simple. Soap: you choose a scent and a brand. Shaving stuff: choose your brand, the number of blades, and whether you want gel or cream.

Now you have to choose sensitive, ultra sensitive, super ultra sensitive with moisturizers, dry skin, oily skin... Your soap can be exfoliating, moisturizing or oil cleansing, liquid or bar, you can get soap-free face washes, pore cleansers...

And, of course, there's the makeup, which makes me want to get on a bullhorn and shout "ATTENTION MEN SHOPPING IN THIS AISLE. YOUR TESTICALS HAVE BEEN FOUND AND ARE AT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DESK."

:mumble:
 

dh girlie

MISS MISSY (geek)
manhattanprjkt83 said:
So i own that outfit as well, and i still ride like a motherphucker. its all about the ladies :eviltongu

Ok, aaaaand? Why the face? Did I say there was anything wrong with that outfit? No...the story reminded me of that guy from Tahoe and I was simply describing the guy, his talk show...and his undying attempts to validate himself all night as a not-gay man (which I don't think he was gay, cuz I saw him making out with one of my girlfriends, but who knows with that outfit he coulda been bi... :D )...you don't need to convince me that you are very masculine and that your riding prowess is that of a motherphucker...or that you are wearing such an outfit for the ladies...just keep reading your post over and over and you might just convince yourself you're not metro sexual...hehehehe! JK...


Note: I think it's ok for a guy to take care of himself and dress nice...make up is another thing, but to dress nice and do that cute flip thing in the front of their hair...nuthin wrong with that at all...nuthin wrong with a dirty, sweaty downhiller either...I just draw the line at sharing lip gloss... :D
 

dh girlie

MISS MISSY (geek)
-BB- said:
How did he try to convince you? an Arse -grab or a big old smooch.
That would have done it.
:nuts:
No...just talked about glossy lip balm, hair gel, skin care, clothing, and the fact that HE WAS NOT GAY...just that men expected women to always look their best, why not reciprocate...and as I mentioned he was making out with one of my girlfriends...
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
9,660
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Nilbog
dh girlie said:
Note: I think it's ok for a guy to take care of himself and dress nice...make up is another thing, but to dress nice and do that cute flip thing in the front of their hair...nuthin wrong with that at all...nuthin wrong with a dirty, sweaty downhiller either...I just draw the line at sharing lip gloss... :D

Hahhaahah i totally agree, some guys i hang out with push it a little far, my friend just got his hair straightened hem hemh cough GAY :nope: you just dont do that. This makeup thing is taking it a little far but i have to admit that back in high school when i had a gnarly zit i would sneak some cover up out of moms room :dead: alright tear me to pieces. I’m metro
 

jacksonpt

Turbo Monkey
Jul 22, 2002
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Vestal, NY
ok, let's take this one step farther... what about hair replacement for us balding monkies?
- Let's start basic...rogaine and other hair regrowth "shampoos"?
- Hair Pieces?
- Hair replacement surgery?

I'm definitely thinning, arguably balding. My wife hates it since I'm only 28, but I don't much care one way or the other. I'm not doing anythign about it, but my wife is constantly trying to get me to use fancy shmancy shampoos and such.

Is the use of rogaine Metro? What about hair plugs and the like?

And what about cologone... isn't that just a "manly" version of perfume?
 

DRB

unemployed bum
Oct 24, 2002
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Funny this came up today... I was at the fancy mall here on Saturday and I noticed that there seemed to be as many men working in the cosmetic departments as there are women. I usually hold my breath and practically run thru that department because of the overwhelming stench of perfume but was being thwarted by the crowd and the baby stroller. Also saw a number of men getting make up advice. This may not be a new thing but its the first time I really noticed it.

dh girlie said:
(which I don't think he was gay, cuz I saw him making out with one of my girlfriends, but who knows with that outfit he coulda been bi... :D
No such thing as a bi guy, you either have seen one up close or you haven't.
 

Tenchiro

Attention K Mart Shoppers
Jul 19, 2002
5,407
0
New England
jacksonpt said:
ok, let's take this one step farther... what about hair replacement for us balding monkies?
- Let's start basic...rogaine and other hair regrowth "shampoos"?
- Hair Pieces?
- Hair replacement surgery?

I'm definitely thinning, arguably balding. My wife hates it since I'm only 28, but I don't much care one way or the other. I'm not doing anythign about it, but my wife is constantly trying to get me to use fancy shmancy shampoos and such.

Is the use of rogaine Metro? What about hair plugs and the like?

And what about cologone... isn't that just a "manly" version of perfume?
I say get the razor out, and go Telly Savalas. :thumb:
 

dh girlie

MISS MISSY (geek)
manhattanprjkt83 said:
Hahhaahah i totally agree, some guys i hang out with push it a little far, my friend just got his hair straightened hem hemh cough GAY :nope: you just dont do that. This makeup thing is taking it a little far but i have to admit that back in high school when i had a gnarly zit i would sneak some cover up out of moms room :dead: alright tear me to pieces. I’m metro

It's ok to be metro...some chicks dig effeminate guys! :D
 

dh girlie

MISS MISSY (geek)
jacksonpt said:
ok, let's take this one step farther... what about hair replacement for us balding monkies?
- Let's start basic...rogaine and other hair regrowth "shampoos"?
- Hair Pieces?
- Hair replacement surgery?

I'm definitely thinning, arguably balding. My wife hates it since I'm only 28, but I don't much care one way or the other. I'm not doing anythign about it, but my wife is constantly trying to get me to use fancy shmancy shampoos and such.

Is the use of rogaine Metro? What about hair plugs and the like?

And what about cologone... isn't that just a "manly" version of perfume?
Dude...tell her you hate her fat ass...just kidding...

But coming from a boy crazy gal...just shave your head...no one wants to share your embarassment of hair plugs or comb overs...I've never looked at a dude with a super short shaved head or a cue ball and said oh my god...look at that guy...but I have been known to laugh at, point,take pictures, yell YOU'RE NOT FOOLING ANYONE, etc. to dudes with bad combovers, wigs, plugs, etc...just shave it off...she'll get used to it...she's not with your for your hair anyway...
 

llkoolkeg

Ranger LL
Sep 5, 2001
4,335
15
in da shed, mon, in da shed
dh girlie said:
I dunno about that...I'd like to continue the opening of that zipper with my teeth...AFTER...he washes off the make up of course... :D
First of all, those are buttonflys and secondly, I'd like to think he doesn't put makeup on his mushroom...or were you referring to the shirt's zipper? :think:
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
22,165
1,261
NC
dh girlie said:
kinda like makin a wife beater vest... :love:
Seee myyy vest, see my vest, made of real gorrilla chest... See my sweater, there's no better, than authentic Irish setter... See this hat, 'twas my cat, my evening wear, a vampire bat!

(why that just popped into my head, I've no idea)
 

jacksonpt

Turbo Monkey
Jul 22, 2002
6,791
59
Vestal, NY
dh girlie said:
Dude...tell her you hate her fat ass...just kidding...
lmfao!!!

I've thought about shaving my head... but again, I don't much care one way or the other. I don't do the comb-over (not that bald... yet) so I still have some dignity. I've been told I don't have a "good shape" to shave my head, whatever the F that means.
 

dh girlie

MISS MISSY (geek)
jacksonpt said:
lmfao!!!

I've thought about shaving my head... but again, I don't much care one way or the other. I don't do the comb-over (not that bald... yet) so I still have some dignity. I've been told I don't have a "good shape" to shave my head, whatever the F that means.
do what YOU feel comfortable with...what I would do to remedy the situation with the wife is...grow a really bad comb over or mullet...then she'll be BEGGING you to shave your head...if you have really curly or frizzy hair...even better...get the Larry from the 3 Stooges look goin...
 

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,248
408
NY
bomberz1qr20 said:
Ocasionally my socks match, does that make me metro?
No, my socks match sometimes too but I make sure that my riding shorts, shirt, and socks never match.
 

dh girlie

MISS MISSY (geek)
binary visions said:
Seee myyy vest, see my vest, made of real gorrilla chest... See my sweater, there's no better, than authentic Irish setter... See this hat, 'twas my cat, my evening wear, a vampire bat!

(why that just popped into my head, I've no idea)
Funny...every time I hear/say/read the word vest the very same song pops into my head! heres the song in its entirety...

You see, some men hunt for sport,
Others hunt for food,
The only thing I'm hunting for,
Is an outfit that looks good.
See my vest, see my vest,
Made from real gorilla chest.
Feel this sweater, there's no better,
Than authentic Irish Setter!
See this hat, 'twas my cat
My evening wear? vampire bat.
These white slippers are albino,
African endangered rhino!
Grizzly bear underwear,
Turtles' necks, I've got my share.
Beret of poodle on my noodle it shall rest!
Try my red robin suit,
It comes one breast or two.
See my vest, see my vest, see my vest!
Like my loafers?
Former gophers!
It was that or skin my chauffeurs,
But a greyhound fur tuxedo would be best.
So let's prepare these dogs,
Lady: Kill two for matching clogs!
See my vest!
See my vest!
Oh, please, won't you see my vest!
I really like the Vest