http://www.santacruzbikes.com/news/index.php?JoesCorner=1&display=2 http://www.santacruzbikes.com/news/index.php?JoesCorner=1&display=1 is it just me or are there some fundamental flaws in those articles? " If that pivot is above the chain-line, the bike will exhibit anti-squat (the suspension extends)characteristics when the chain is under tension while pedaling. The opposite is true when the pivot is lower than the line of force in the chain." he just talks about that and nothing about the line between the rear tires contact patch and the intersection point between the vertical linem of the front tires contact patch and horizontal line fro the riders center of gravity. and even better is how axle paths dont matter!! if this guy is really the head engineer for sc, i would be worried.