[Gallain]

So I got a new bike and it's super quiet... The only sound from it is from the occasional chain slap and the tires and the freewheel. Realized that I now can't stand the noise my freewheel is making. Had a DT Swiss 240 with 54t upgrade in it but it's to loud. Tried saint, XT, a Bontrager and a Novatec and they are to loud.
I have been looking on Onyx hubs, any experiences with them? Other suggestions?
Btw joined the lizards and now need boost spacing (148mm) preferably with 6bolt.

 

[StiHacka]

@Sandwich has onyx hubs. Dead silent they are. And very yellow.

 

[jonKranked]

Stealth hubs... They did just get acquired by another bike company. Sprag clutch. No noise.

 

[jonKranked]

Now this is gonna bother me, some company just acquired all the cycling assets from true precision components.

 

[Nick]

Now this is gonna bother me, some company just acquired all the cycling assets from true precision components.

Box bought them.
Why is that going to bother you?

I'm digging what Box is doing with their drivetrain line.

 

[jonKranked]

Box components. That's it.

 

[jonKranked]

Box bought them.
Why is that going to bother you?

I'm digging what Box is doing with their drivetrain line.

Because I'm OCD and it drives me bananas

 

[jonKranked]

To be clear - not remembering is what would have bothered me.

 

[Serial Midget]

The e13 hub I have sounds sounds like playing cards on spokes so thats one option to avoid.

 

[jonKranked]

Box bought them.
Why is that going to bother you?

I'm digging what Box is doing with their drivetrain line.

They've apparently discontinued their push push shifters due to IP concerns.

 

[Gallain]

Now this is gonna bother me, some company just acquired all the cycling assets from true precision components.

Forgot about them!! Thank you!

Apparently no boost option...

 

[Jm_]

My DTs are damn near silent. My other hubs are hopes. Do yours have grease?

 

['size]

They've apparently discontinued their push push shifters due to IP concerns.

when did specialized ever make shifters?

 

[jonKranked]

Forgot about them!! Thank you!

Apparently no boost option...

shimzzzzz....

 

[ChrisRobin]

Saint hubs are too loud?? They sound dead silent after riding around on my other bike with Hope Pro 4 hubs.

 

[Jm_]

Usually my hopes are enough to alert hikers, but approaching with the DTs is like stealth mode. Thing about hopes in a race though, if you hear the sound, it means you should be pedaling.

 

[iRider]

Thing about hopes in a race though, if you hear the sound, it means you should be pedaling.

Wonder which hubs the Norco WC team is using.....maybe Blenki is forced by sponsor obligations to ride their noisy hub and hates it. Would explain his pedaling in the air....

 

[Gallain]

My DTs are damn near silent. My other hubs are hopes. Do yours have grease?

The right amount of grease in them yes. You can't really use that much grease on the 54t. The 18 ratchet you can get fairly quiet.

 

[Gallain]

Saint hubs are too loud?? They sound dead silent after riding around on my other bike with Hope Pro 4 hubs.

Can't get them in boost...

 

[slimshady]

I'm digging what Box is doing with their drivetrain line.

Outside the fancy RD, the rest of their drivetrain line comes straight from SunRace. They (SunRace) have a crazy 12-speed hub with a quasi-standard Shimano freehub though.

 

[Da Peach]

I would like an Onyx hub.

Stealth are also supposed to be new/fancy.

Are those the ones by Profile?

 

[jonKranked]

I would like an Onyx hub.

Stealth are also supposed to be new/fancy.

Are those the ones by Profile?

The stealth hubs have been on the market for at least a decade

 

[jonKranked]

Outside the fancy RD, the rest of their drivetrain line comes straight from SunRace

Source?

 

[Da Peach]

The stealth hubs have been on the market for at least a decade

So, just fancy, then.

Glad that's settled.

 

[slimshady]

Source?

Look at Sunrace's catalog and then to the PB piece on their drivetrains. The cassettes are squarely Sunrace ones, as I have a MX8 in my bike. The new dual-pad shifters are strikingly similar to the Sunrace ones too.

 

[SkullCrack]

Project 321 recently came out with a quiet rear hub:

https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/03/17/nahbs-2017-project-321-introduces-low-drag-high-engagement-magnetic-drive-system-quiet-loud-choice/

 

[jonKranked]

Look at Sunrace's catalog and then to the PB piece on their drivetrains. The cassettes are squarely Sunrace ones, as I have a MX8 in my bike. The new dual-pad shifters are strikingly similar to the Sunrace ones too.

Oh so the standard "lookslike" comparison. Got it.

 

[Da Peach]

Project 321 recently came out with a quiet rear hub:

https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/03/17/nahbs-2017-project-321-introduces-low-drag-high-engagement-magnetic-drive-system-quiet-loud-choice/

THATS the one I was thinking of...

 

[iRider]

Did Shimano not yet release their Scylence freehub for MTB hubs? It is on the Dura ace hubs, or am I wrong?

 

[iRider]

Oh so the standard "lookslike" comparison. Got it.

Nope, slimshady is correct. The cassette is definitely a Sunrace, just with the Box logo and a higher price tag.

 

[jonKranked]

Nope, slimshady is correct. The cassette is definitely a Sunrace, just with the Box logo and a higher price tag.

Source?

 

[Jm_]

Did Shimano not yet release their Scylence freehub for MTB hubs? It is on the Dura ace hubs, or am I wrong?

You mean back when shimano did it the first time and no one bought it?

https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/14194/is-there-such-thing-as-a-freewheel-that-doesnt-click

http://www.bikepartsusa.com/Product-srk/HUB-REAR-SHI-FH-R085-36-CL-8-9s-BLACK-BULK-prk/

 

[Nick]

fortunately I'm in such bad shape my heavy breathing and the sound of my pounding heart drown out any noise coming from my bike.

my King hubs are virtually silent.

 

[rideit]

I have an LX hub on my current cross bike that is completely 100% silent. I absolutely love it. Probably built the wheel in 2001 or so.

 

[slimshady]

Source?

Sunrace MX 8:

Box 2 cassette:

 

[jonKranked]

I'm not saying it's not rebadged or contract mnfg'd but without a source, speculation.

 

[slimshady]

I'm not saying it's not rebadged or contract mnfg'd but without a source, speculation.

The DH cassette goes the same way. And since the Two is, well, their second tier cassette, I'm betting their top one will be a rebadged top-tier Sunrace.

 

[Sandwich]

@Sandwich has onyx hubs. Dead silent they are. And very yellow.

aye, that's me.

I sprang for a set of onyx hubs because I have money and am also stupid. They are fantastic hubs. Worth it? I dunno. Fun? no doubt. You can get them in any color, and you can get the fun bits in any color as well. They will also build you whatever spacing you want. Therefore, I got neon yellow with purple ano bearing caps. They are indeed dead silent. It's very weird to coast along and hear no noise- it's a more natural feeling, but it's also creepy not having audible feedback on your speed. A freehub that hums also tells you how fast you are going. It's not something you notice till it's gone.

As for performance, they are good. They do seem to coast really well, but I'm not sure that's just the hub, or switching to tubeless/low pressure/carbon rims at the same time as the hubs. Also, while engagement is instantaneous, there is a bit of lash as the drivetrain tightens. I've never tried it side by side with a toothed engagement hub, but it's almost like the sprag clutch has to bite in with high torque, yielding a small amount before actual engagement. Also, it's a bit heavy. I have a shimano steel freehub and XT cassette, and replacing that with an alloy XD driver and high end cassette stands to save a half a pound of hub weight.

I'm not going to lie and tell you anything about their durability. I built my bike when I had a one year old, then had knee surgery, then my wife had knee surgery, and now I have a 4 month old in addition to a four year old, so riding time is comically short. I do love riding it and it's hilarious riding with somebody like @StiHacka, because his hub sounds like a can of yellow jackets and mine is silent.

 

[iRider]

Source?

The German Bike mag had a test in their 6/17 issue and they were same weight, same shifting performance, same everything (besides color and logo). They even stated it in their test that they think the Box is a ripoff.

 

[Happymtb.fr]

The right amount of grease in them yes. You can't really use that much grease on the 54t. The 18 ratchet you can get fairly quiet.

Can you live with the 36 ratchet? With the recommended DT grease, it is relatively quiet, at least more than with whatever grease I had before.
I considered the idea of having a thick oring where they remove some material to make it lighter. The oring would dampen some of the noise. I did not bother to mesure and order the appropriate size yet...