[manimal]

Moving into the new house soon but before i start bringing in the furniture i decided to go ahead and paint over the hideous dark wood panelling in the finished basement.

so i spent a good part of last night (i'm on a 3rd shift rotation so i've been painting/prepping from about midnight to 4am the past few days) and tonight prepping the wood and using Kilz to hide the dark wood. i'm probably just going to finish it off with a soft white for now until my wife can decide what color she wants the room. (she doesn't even know i've painted it yet...told her we were going to have to wait because we didn't have the money she'll be rather surprised when she gets back from FL on wednesday )

so anyway...onto my question.
it took me FOREVER to get a good coat of Kilz on the panneling and i still have to go back and fill in the lines on the panneling. so is it a lot easier with one of those power painters? i found an inexpensive one at lowes where you just fill the handle with paint and pump away. it supposedly holds enough for 70sqft at a time. (basement is roughly1000 sqft)
so is it worth the $25 for one of these? is it that much easier? i had considered one of the power sprayers but 1. it's expensive 2. makes a mess.

so any tips or feedback is greatly appreciated.

 

[Changleen]

Dunno, but:

I'd ask yourself this - Do any professional Painters you've seen use them? I have a buddy and an Uncle who are painters and they don't.

 

[stevew]

If they are anything like the power sprayer I once used, the end result will not be visually appealing.

 

[DRB]

Dunno, but:

I'd ask yourself this - Do any professional Painters you've seen use them? I have a buddy and an Uncle who are painters and they don't.

Are you seriously going to fill in the paneling lines so its smooth? How are you planning on doing that? That is a potentially disasterous project.

If I were you I'd go ahead and paint your color without doing a lot, if any, fill work and see how that looks. Since you are potentially going to end up painting the walls again, if you don't like the look, you can fill them then.

In our first house I undertook the same project and it turned into such a nightmare and looked so crappy that I ended up pulling the panelling down and putting up sheet rock.

 

[MMike]

Mr. Bean, firecracker-in-the-paint-can method is fast....

 

[pnj]

don't use them, they suck.

you want to fill the groves in with putty/spackle if your trying to smooth out the wood. it's easy an fast. if done correctly, you should have very little to sand when done.

as mentioned, pro painters don't use those rollers. they use normal rollers....

 

[manimal]

i guess i was misunderstood. i don't want to fill in the cracks, i just want to get paint into them. right now it's a splotchy white wall with a bunch of black lines.

 

[SilentJ]

i guess i was misunderstood. i don't want to fill in the cracks, i just want to get paint into them. right now it's a splotchy white wall with a bunch of black lines.

I'd bet that the most efficient way to fill in the lines is with a brush...thats the way my mother did it when she re-did my bedroom after moving out. It didnt take her long at all.

 

[manimal]

I'd bet that the most efficient way to fill in the lines is with a brush...thats the way my mother did it when she re-did my bedroom after moving out. It didnt take her long at all.

hmmm...but this is a HUGE friggin room and i'm impatient

i just got off the phone with friend's mom who is a pro-painter. she said that the roller is fast but a pain to clean up. i suppose i'll give it a shot for $25. at that price it's worth it to just be able to paint w/out having to watch out for the stupid paint tray :mumble:

 

[BurlyShirley]

Manimal, go over the cracks in the paneling with a brush FIRST, and go over the walls with a regular roller. It will be fine.

 

[Transcend]

Rent a sprayer. Most fun to be had while painting.

 

[Frankenschwinn]

I used one and it sped the job up considerably. Clean-up is a bear though. Make sure you get the proper rollers (with holes to allow the paint through...)

 

[manimal]

BS - i tried the paintbrush deal and it doesn't penetrate. i went through the past couple of hours and did some of the detail work and discovered that the short roller (3") seems to fill the cracks the best.

i bought the power roller thing for $15, it just holds paint in the handle...kinda like a syphon. i'll try it after i get back from an off-duty job in a bit.

 

[ioscope]

Plastic ones suck balls. You'll spend more time thinning paint and cleaning tips than you would painting with a one inch brush.

 

[JoeRay]

Big roller lots of nap on the cover, it holds heaps of paint and the depth of the nap allows it to get into the grroves more.

Don't bother with a power roller, or a roller with internal paint reservoir, they a gimmicks.

If you do fill the grooves then seal them after filling and sanding. Nothing looks worse than lines of peeling paint where you filled in a few years if you didn't.

My current landlord painted before I moved in two years ago and didn't seal over large expanses of filling and rendering. I now have half of one wall in my kitchen peeled off. Looked good till about six months ago though!

 

[Chunky Munkey]

Okay, first of all, like Conan O'Brien says like Donald Trump, "Ya Fiyud!" Picture me doing "the cobra" doing Conan O'Brien doing Donald Trump, only saying, "Ya Stupid!"

Painting Paneling? GEEZE, you grow up in the hood or sumpthing? Man that is SOooo tacky. That's like something Larry the Cable guy would do.

I mean Jeff Foxworthy would say something like this, "If Yer WIFE has matching salad bowls with the words COOLWHIP on the side, you might be a redneck." Followed by THIS! "And If YOU painted your PANELING over instead putting up drywall, YOU NOT ONLY ARE a redneck, but someone ought to take you out back and shoot you just to end your redneck bloodline!"

Painting paneling looks SOOooo freaking stupid, low class, like a dump and you'd expect Jimmy Walker to come walking into that room and say, "DYNOMITE!!! I love what you did with the place!"

NEVER, I say NEVER paint over paneling... and I'll say FRIENDS don't let FRIENDS, paint over paneling.

Home Depot, DRYWALL. It's EASY as all get out. Mud the seams. Takes a little work but it's worth it in the end. It will look MUCH better. What do you want, MODERN, or Valerie Bertinelli walking in to the room. Paneling is sooooo seventies. It's like the back drop in every california bungalow movie with John Holmes in it. All you need now is a water bed and you're place will look like a low budget porno, just add cheesy music with lots of guitar waa waa. GET RID of it! Have a damage the walls party. Invite your friends. Bring gloves, hammer and you supply the beer. Got to war on the walls. Let them do the demolition. Then you come in and put up the drywall.

IT AINT HARD!

Now, as to the sprayer, DON'T USE ONE! Sprayers leave NO texture on the walls. Commercial painters use them in new apartments. Use a large nap roller. Prime and then paint. TWO coats is perfect.

As to power rollers I agree with someone else here. You don't see the pro's using them. I've NEVER seen a mexican using a power roller.

Say it with me..." GET RID OF THE PANELING! I'm NOT a redneck... GET RID OF THE PANELING! I'm NOT a redneck" Keep going...

 

[beestiboy]

Chunky WTF was that, whatever. Manimal, I have found that most of those gimmic paint things dont work. But if for some reason it does since you already got one give us a report. Painting sucks but it is fairly cheap and makes a huge difference in a room.